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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 64 points 1 week ago

I'm going to starve to death and my whole country is going to be constantly wrecked by hurricanes for what remains of history. Hundreds of millions of climate refugees will be gunned down, gassed, and left to die of a thousand new antibacterial resistant superbugs in dozens of Gaza-scale concentration camps. A billion more will starve. A nuclear war will start when the remaining imperialist countries understand that the climate catastrophe won't just stop in the Global South.

Anyway, American automotive stock is not as high as it hypothetically could be, because BYD is producing cheap, subsidized electric cars. That's what I'm really worried about right now.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

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I don't understand how someone who is nominally literate and politically aware could write the words "more important than climate change".

I just don't.

Also if I was owned by Noah, even if it was a boring own, I would shave my beard and go live in a cave for 99 days to reflect on where I'd gone wrong in life.

Wait... wait I don't think Noah was trying to own him. I think that's a good faith question and Noah is just a complete ghoul.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Matty is the same dumbfuck who proposed one billion Americans to own China. Like that’s ever going to happen with how heavily anti-immigrant the US is

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

Matty best start fucking, though the task may be beyond him

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

Here, imagine you are i-am-adolf-hitler, but lowkey like

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

Wait... wait I don't think Noah was trying to own him. I think that's a good faith question and Noah is just a complete ghoul.

that's my read on it too

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

I don't understand how someone who is nominally literate and politically aware could write the words "more important than climate change".

Techbros often say DAE LE "UNFRIENDLY AI" is more dangerous than climate change, and especially ignorant techbros like my-hero have fucking said wokeness is more dangerous than climate change many times over.

We are ruled by manchild clowns.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 52 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm starting to get radicalized to the point where I don't believe that any problem is more important than climate change.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Personally my takeaway from radicalization has been more of that- climate change, pandemics, even the threat of nuclear war, all of these cannot be ended without the death of empire.

The empire will die, or it will kill us all.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

imperialism remains the primary contradiction

deep greens stay seething, common mao w

biggest polluter on earth is US military and they're never gonna stop until you make them

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah. Libs are like "we need to do something!" And it's like "here's the org chart for us central command go something"

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Preach. You could tell me aliens are real and they're launching an invasion and I would still be more preoccupied with what the hell we're gonna do about ecosystem collapse. (not to diminish the importance of the genocide in Palestine, which when understood through a materialist analysis is just intrinsically linked to climate change anyway)

[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is actually one of the most important factors when it comes to climate change right now.

Think about how many tons of carbon have been released by fighters bombing hospitals, and tanks tearing up roads in refugee camps. As bad as a coal power plant in China is for the climate, at least it is producing a tangible good, and is part of a greater mission to uplift people, improve their standard of living, on the path to zero emissions. We have burned millions of tons of carbon, with Israel, for the sole purpose of ethnic cleansing.

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

This, also if you think about it- the total cumulative emissions of the west vastly exceeds that of China's, or India's, or that of any other global south country. And much of China's emissions are basically just the west's relocated industry, supporting western consumerism- and it is not so long ago that China was an immensely poor nation, even now it is still undeniably a developing nation (though developing in leaps and bounds). Coal, oil, etc... these historically have been necessary steps along the road to human development (and human basic needs which all the global south is struggling with > environment by-and-large; anything else is ecofascism or something akin to it).

But now- look at China, and the global south. China is upending even this historical path, and making massive leaps and bounds in not only renewable energy technology, but making said technology affordable and accessible to the masses and thus viable as a true replacement to fossil fuels. The global south at large is embracing it with all they've got (limited means, but they're embracing it all right). Look at the work of countries like China, or even India, or even some of the world's most impoverished nations along the west African Sahel, etc... and one can see that these nations, who have been given the brunt of climate/pollution imperialism- fully understand and are actively working to combat it (even if they also need to feed themselves, their families, they need to have basic needs like education, healthcare, housing, etc... these things don't grow on trees) with efforts that, in China's case, eclipse that of the west's (despite western wealth and decades of doing nothing and rather maintaining- to this day!- as wretched a system as possible, to maintain oil exec's profits, to maintain the local auto/etc industries' profits, etc etc etc), and in the case of other far poorer/less developed global south nations, resemble an effort far greater (compared to their resources) than that of any western country...

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

This is correct.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Agreed, I was saying the same thing to someone else earlier.

[–] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except maybe biodiversity?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Same problem, ultimately. Global warming and the Sixth Great Extinction are being caused by the same people and processes.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago

Ego is more important than billions dying and irreparable ecological destruction, got it.

Fucking idiot.

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

funny thing is i agreed with his first reply for totally different reasons.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Matty hates electric cars because he's a fucking idiot.

I hate electric cars because even in the best case other car infrastructure is too carbon intensive and we need mass transit instead.

We are not the same.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, even with a fully renewable electricity grid and 100 percent EV usage, you're still left with fucking car culture destroying society

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The brake and tire dust alone will continue to fuck everyone over with clouds of microplastics across the globe.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Car brained Americans: general secretary can we please have cars

Me: we have cars at home

[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

I will not be happy until my body is 11% plastic by weight. My brain worms will be plastic and I'll be so happy.

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

43 years old man who never had a real job and had contributed nothing to society had a bad take on Twitter to drive engagements

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago
[–] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

nothing that can't be solved by putting a shotgun in Matty Glesias' mouth

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sequestering one Matt worth of carbon at a time

[–] miz@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

starting a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation dedicated to convincing Matty Glesias that gun barrels taste like candy

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago
[–] sloth@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago
[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

Wait, I thought capitalism breeds innovation, how did the US get overtaken in technology by the filthy commies?!

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Come on lib, maybe try rguing that manifestly they have been a capitalist distraction and delayed climate solutions/limited our imagination.

On the plus side they're heavier, shreds them tires up better (yum micro plastics).

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

anyone that prioritises America (or any "nation") """""winning""""" over any other conceivable endeavour (except for ethnic cleansing) deserves to immediately be kinetically prosecuted

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

kinetically prosecuted

illegal-to-say but also lenin-dont-laugh

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

also i know the concern of your "nation" "winning" is usually the precursor to/is inherently linked to committing genocide, but i wanted to stop any libs in their tracks

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You got a link? Can't really tell what he's trying to say here without context. Is it that the US should just give up because China is owning them so hard on electric cars? Is it that the US is economically dependent on oil and we should continue to use ICE cars regardless of if it kills everyone?

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks! So yeah, it's literally just "China is doing good so we must ban electric cars", death to Matty Glesias.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

if you dig a little deeper it's also in large part the fact that matty hates Elon for aligning with republicans: https://cdn.xcancel.com/pic/orig/media%2FGabbWXZXkAA2Uvr.png

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

My reading was that the US has an technical advantage in ICE [doubt] so shouldn't have supported EVs which allowed China to gain ground at an early stage of the technology

Which is fucking stupid, of course

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

It's predicated on the old racist trope that Chinese steal everything and cannot invent anything of their own because both they are asiatic hordes and also communism no iphone. So it holds that if we hadn't invented them, they couldn't have stolen it and raced ahead of our plodding efforts and our existing advantage in ICE would be too great (by decades) for them to overcome from their starting position. Which is of course wrong, laughably so.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

I truly wish these people burn in hell

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

"it's only worth avoiding extinction if America is still #1"

amerikkka-clap