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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


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The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 31 points 3 weeks ago

modern asymmetrical warfare.

if my ancestors had suicide bombers instead of literally sticks I might not be mostly white.

[–] CentauriBeau@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

The same way that AT THE TIME everyone rooted for the cowboys, not the Indians (Native Americans, but taking a little poetic license); everyone rooted for the glorious British Empire, not any the the “backwards 3rd world countries” they invaded; etc. The key is that public opinion is swayed by those that own the media, and that means rich old white men.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Zionism fundamentally conflicts with Liberal ideas of oppression and hierarchy. Its hard for them to understand that a historically (and to a lesser extent currently) marginalized group (Jewish people) could perpetuate the very oppression and pain they experienced. Israel is also the "civilized" Western country that "supports queer rights and neurodivergant people" (fun fact: Israel has a special military branch where they make vulnerable and often mentally disabled people commit horrific crimes against humanity). In addition it conflicts with the Liberal idea that Judaism is a "progressive religion" leading to cognitive dissidence (can personally not confirm, Judaism is just as regressive as any other religion. I would know, ive been Jewish my entire life).

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No religion can really be progressive.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Correct, especially not one as old and deep rooted in ethnonationalism as Judaism.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Being gpd's chosen people invalidates any progressiveness outright.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's greed and propaganda.

Just the same way there are (only some??) people now saying 'genocide and inflicting deliberate suffering & destruction/eradication is bad' in relation to Palestine, there were non-racists & non-robbing people at the time of the other pictured "conflicts".
Not even that few of them (bcs humans tend to know what caused suffering & what suffering is), but overshadowed by the spoils & triumphs of "war".

But the formula remains the same, designate a group of people as less than human/incompetent savages (or whether the Zionist correct term for Palestinians is now), repeatedly tell people that have nothing to do with them how bad (they need them to think) they are, which pacifies the majority into silent compliancy & complicity.
Step 2: bloody profit.

Only once everything is raped & pillaged the propaganda loses it's fuel & the remaining human voices remain, the voices that have been saying the same thing from the start.

Tl;dr: generic genocide in progress "good", historically looking at genocide (by the same fucking people that genocided in the first place) "bad".

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

yeah as compared to the conservatives sitting there so on the right side.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They mean neoliberals...

which conservatives are a type of...

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

ah yeah. makes a bit more sense.

[–] Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Conservatives are just liberals, 10 years behind.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago