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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Cool, surveillance capitalism. Very normal and free

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These are the same people who screech about social credit scores

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

while takong care not to ruin their credit scores

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I actually came across a creepy campaign talking to my ol man yesterday. He was telling me he's part of a postcard campaign to "get voters to the polls"

I thought I'd anything it was voter intimidation. He was instructed to hand-write letters to a short list of people in NYC. There were 4 options of pre-made comments to leave, one of which was (iirc)

'thank you for being a voter! who you vote for is private but whether you vote is public. Please vote this November 5 election"

The other choices were a bit more innocuous but.... Can you imagine being brown and getting handwritten no-return-address postcard from someone across the country who knows your name somehow?

Fishy.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I got one of those just last night and I'm tryna do the math on "did you worthless settler jizzstains really blitz my house with a dozen different 'pwease vote' flyers because I told you in no uncertain terms that genocidal crackers are not allowed to text or talk to me?"

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

thank you for being a voter! who you vote for is private but whether you vote is public.

PSL

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago

Good thing I'm already telling people I'm not voting. Better luck next time libssmuglord

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This won't have the desired effect of making people vote. Instead more people will find a political reason for not voting and comfort in that reason.

People will become absolutely fine with saying "neither of them represent my beliefs and I'm not ok with not voting based on that, deal with it". This will be normalised. It will damage the civil religion considerably.

This is a good thing. Do not stand in the way of their mistake.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People will become absolutely fine with saying "neither of them represent my beliefs and I'm not ok with not voting based on that, deal with it"

I say that now and I get told that I'm trash, Trump is my fault, and so on and so on.

Is this the antidote to the liberal "a 3rd party vote is a vote for Trump" math? The Anti-Vote equation?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You will say it after this and they will still call you trash.

But many more people will also start saying it when challenged. And many more will be called trash. And many of them will just learn to be ok with that.

This does not address the underlying reasons people are not voting, and therefore will not notably affect the issue. Instead it will create unintended consequences.

Is this the antidote to the liberal "a 3rd party vote is a vote for Trump" math? The Anti-Vote equation?

It might push some people to vote third party as the only option to not vote for one of the two parties they don't like.

Obviously the goal here is to make people vote for one of the two parties, but they have reasons for not doing that. If they're absolutely forced to vote they still won't pick the 2 parties.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Just tell those people some variation of this and when they then explain to you how it doesn't work that way because you would have voted for the Dems if you didn't vote 3rd party just tell you would never vote for the Dems. At this point their logic will become circular and the will short circuit and get mad

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

In bad country social credit score

[–] Romeo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

It's her turn otherwise you're a ruzzian orc terrorist sympathizer powercry-1 shy

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

speech-ryeonmi-park

Can't even think how I could parody this

[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I vote in every election because most elections aren't presidential and might affect my life.

[–] sOlitude24k@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Same here. Whether I vote or not somebody is gonna win. Might as well judge it towards who I like, or is at least more palatable. Something something civic duty and all that.

Local elections are way more important than the presidential one, though. If you're not already, get involved in local politics, y'all.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Legitimising a system where the only two choices both support a genocide is bad actually. There is a third choice - not doing that.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Your county commissioner and school board director probably don't have much to do with the genocide, but a lot of these elections are literally "schoolteacher" vs "guy who thinks girls shouldn't be taught to read" in places and I think taking a stand in those cases is worth it.

Local elections usually have a lot less people with party affiliations too.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You are giving a mandate to a genocide.

You can rationalise this all you want to pretend you're not a bad person but choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.

The correct position, and the position that every Palestinian I've actually spoken to has, is that you should reject the system and regime entirely. Not legitimise it by participating.

[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Letting our children be educated into being chuds and destroying local social services by not voting isn't gonna lead to communism.

Step 1: Don't vote in local elections
Step 2: Voting rates hit some arbitrary low number, deligitimizing democracy
Step 3: ???
Step 4: We achieve communism or force a ceasefire?

I don't know, I just don't see it. It's no more logical than the Nazis attacking a transformer to make race war happen. I'm not even saying vote for Kamala, but throwing my ballot initiative to legalize abortion just doesn't make sense unless you're an accelerationist.

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[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i mean do check that though. Cause damn good chance a school board director in your zipcode suspended a student for being Palestinian or Arab in the vicinity of zionists. If you are voting locally it should be even more discerning than ever and probably be someone who can speak to directly

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone I'm voting for is someone I've met and had drinks with lol, we're an elderly town on average (average age of 55), but a lot of the candidates are younger workers out here.

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

believing in civic duty in the Ponzi Scheme Country of all places is so fucking funny ahahah

Death to America

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Very true. It’s also a pretty common position I’ve come across from people who don’t vote in presidential elections. They usually vote locally.

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm gonna vote

spoilerfor Claudia De La Cruz

i hope it show them that too

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Don't do it the Dems were right i watched my Cruz write-in vote change like Harry Potter n shit into a Trump vote and just like that a PROJECT 2025 banner fell out of the ceiling and jackboots came and headbagged the bluehair right behind me in line

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao why would you advertise this? There’s already a number of people who don’t register to vote to get out of jury duty, and now you’re telling them that their voting record can go public.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I know people who don't fuck with voting because voter rolls are a doxx for them. And here's the Democrats using that as a threat. Yeah, that'll work.

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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Haha, yeah, great question. I'm so glad you asked. I get this question a lot. There's actually a really good reason I didn't bother voting. See, I'm a communist. That means that I want public ownership of the productive forces of society. An easier way to think about it is that the finite resources of this Earth are used in pursuit of making 13 or 14 people incomprehensibly rich and we all toil away to-

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

The other person walks away but we just continue the speech

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

edit: oh fun I just got another ad that is the same AI voice but different visuals

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Should we give people an incentive to vote by promising material improvements in their lives then fulfilling those promises?

No! We will scold and shame!

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats are unironically the reductress satire piece

Shawn is confident that the only way to save the country is for Democrats to cater to a homogenous group of white, cis, blue-collar workers he made up.

“Besides, what are trans people gonna do?” Shawn adds. “Vote Republican?”

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

The funny thing is they could easily do the old political trick and make false promises during election season. The Democrats did it all the time. Just lie that you'll give people proper healthcare then shrug after the election. Just lie that you'll prosecute the Wall Street plutocrats.

But they don't even want to pretend to be centre-left, they want to be Reagan democrats so fucking much they can't even fucking pretend to be anything else.

Vice President Kamala Harris has said in the current campaign that she supports raising the federal minimum wage. But her campaign hasn’t specified an exact figure.

They could have made this the main message of their campaign, but it's not even a bullshit promise at this point.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Who you vote for is private but whether you vote is public.

Ah shit. There's going to be a leak of everyone who voted and who they voted for, isn't there?

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

wojak-nooo you didn't vote and trump won

chad got shit to do bro

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Just say you would have voted for trump, even though it's not true, then they'll thank you for not voting

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Standin' in queues for De La Cruz

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Now it is 1984
Knock-knock at your front door
It's the suede denim secret police
They have come for your uncool niece

The punks got it right once again

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

my friends and family: "damn he really did never vote, respect"

Death to America

[–] shath@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Vooooot harder, just vote! Freedom! Arsenal of Democracy! Voooooot!

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Vote early and vote often (commit voter fraud)

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's easy these days, I'm not voting for Trump 1000 times which means I've voted for Kamala 1000 times. I'm also not voting for her 1000 times, which kinda cancels the other 1000 votes out, but I just want everybody to have fun.

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[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

If you’re doing data harvesting, Facebook snooping, skip-trace, w/e: voter rolls are right up there with tax records for publicly searchable information that lets you both verify the existence of a person and make more connections between datasets.

[–] milk_thief@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

In bad country

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Oh shit.

grillman <- I'm sorry I ever doubted this man, I do in fact, just want to grill for God's sake!

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago
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