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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 164 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

That would imply that 50 percent of the snapped people's biomes remained behind. All of the produce in the grocery stores would be covered in an airborne mist of E. coli, and snapped surgeons that were mid-operation would give their patients staph infections, assuming the suriviving surgery team was able to stablize and close them up before they died anyway. Neat.

Also when those snapped people returned with the half of their biomes that also got snapped, you would get a sequel to the diarrhea. Diarrhea 2: Electric Boogapoo.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do viruses get snapped too or na

And da babies in-utero? Did the Infinity Gauntlet go by conception or 24-weeks?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There were zero reports I've heard from any TV, movie, or comic reference to the snap of unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap. That suggests the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't consider the unborn as a separate individual until birth.

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 month ago

unborn (but possibly viable) babies being left behind (by any species even) when the pregnant mother disappeared in the snap.

This scenario didn't even enter my head when I posed the question. That's some Stephen King-level imagery though—a snapped mother disappearing only for an amniotic sac to drop in her place.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Following that logic conjoined twins would either both be snapped or neither would.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think the Gauntlet counted any beings that either depended on another to live or supported another to live as all one unit for simplicity's sake.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I would love a comic series where each Infinity Stone has a representative entity of some kind and we get to see the "thought process" each goes through in fulfilling the request of its wielder. I'm envisioning a format like the Pixar movie "Inside Out" except each stone's entity is very judgy on how the wielder is using it.

"Ugh, Goddamit Dr Strange, how many more times do you want to do this Dormamu thing. Its getting really repetitive." - Time stone

Or when multiple stones have to work together, they have to hash out what each is going to do to fulfill the desired wish. The conversation between all the stones during "the snap" being the longest and most complicated conversation with questions coming up like "okay Mr Soul Stone smart guy, what about pregnant women?! Is that one soul or two, huh?"

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 4 weeks ago

imagine the stone suddenly surgically removing your conjoined twin but leaving you with a typical body afterwards. then 5 years later your twin - now noticably younger and alien to you - is reattached

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Finally someone asks the real question. Is there an objective definition to life that Virus may or may not fall under? Or would it depend on Thano's subjective opinion on the matter?

[–] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

The scientific definition of life changes constantly, but viruses more often than not fall under "not alive."

Throughout, viruses have rarely been considered alive. More than 120 definitions of life exist today, and most require metabolism, a set of chemical reactions that produce energy. Viruses do not metabolize. They also don’t fit some other common criteria. They do not have cells. They cannot reproduce independently. Viruses are inert packages of DNA or RNA that cannot replicate without a host cell.

Source

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You've opened your inbox to a scientific debate that has raged since virology began.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 111 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Killing 50% of your gut bacteria is a big nothing.

These things reproduce on the timescale of hours.

I kill 90% of my sourdough starter every time I feed it, and it bounces back the same day.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have been on antibiotics that wiped out most of my gut bacteria. It was easy to upset my stomach for a few months, then I was fine.

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 7 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I had the same experience with norovirus this spring.

Probiotics did the trick, but it was t so much fun.

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[–] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

50% of all ≠ 50% per person

[–] xXSirDanglesXx@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Right? Taking even the people who disappeared into account, and their gut biomes, would you not consider them all as part of all life?

If so, there may be some survivors with all of their guy biomes perfectly intact, and others who get unfortunately zilched.

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[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If the 50% are homogeneously spread -and it's implied that it is-, then one may assume 50% per person also applies. Like how he didn't leave 50% of planets alone and purge the rest.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would think it's basically a coin flip for each living thing. It's possible, for example, that all humans survive, however the probability is so astronomically small, it's functionally impossible.

Same with gut biome. Even with several billion attempts, the probability that even 60% of any individual's trillion gut microbes get snapped would be essentially functionally impossible.

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[–] don@lemm.ee 38 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Or the 50% of all people that got snapped took 50% of the gut bacteria with them, leaving the rest with no loss to their gut biomes. (taps forehead)

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

or the survivors lost all but bacteria, and the remainders were left over in places of the snapped people

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

Ohh so that's what the dust is. The leftover gut bacteria.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 37 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

E. Coli reproduces so fast that a population can double in size in half an hour, and human feces is 50% bacteria by weight.

If your gut microbiome got snapped it'd be back so fast you wouldn't even notice. Bacteria are kinda scary.

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, worst case scenario stock prices for probiotic yoghurt would increase.

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[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Wouldn't 50% of them die at the same time as the creatures that they live inside? Like unexisting 50% of humans would in fact unexist 50% of the bacteria in the humans who went poof.

How does this argument make sense?

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 28 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (15 children)

Thanos' plan was unmitigated garbage anyway.

Humanity reached 4B in 1975 and hit 8B in 2022. On that basis, if half of humanity died when Thanos snapped his fingers 50 years later we'd be back to 8B people again.

——— Edited to billions not millions because I wrote it while under the influence of stupidity.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

She makes a compelling argument.

Subscribes

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Look, we're in the realm where the guy decided to remove 50% of all life... as a resource conservation attempt.

Lovely movies, but the "guy's a literal death cultist" required way less suspension of disbelief. Jilted incel Thanos pining after an annoyed Aubrey Plaza or whoever would have been way more timely, too.

But if we're doing it this way... 50% of the plants, algae and plankton would have died too. XKCD MUST have figured out what that'd do to the atmosphere by now, right?

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

pining after an annoyed Aubrey Plaza

Can't have your bad guy be that relatable. Everyone would just be cheering against the avengers.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Isn't "an annoyed Aubrey Plaza" redundant?

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Come to think about it, whenever a macroscopic organism - ie animals - died it would leave behind about half the microbes living on and in them. When those poor fools got dusted it should have left a puddle of horrible slime on the ground.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I want the show where the snapped people come back and then the survivors have to awkwardly explain that they have gotten remarried and otherwise moved on.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

That actually happens in some of the TV series from that story arc.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thanos' snap wouldn't kill 50% of each survivors' gut microbiome, it would kill 50% of all the lil buggies that compromise all gut microbiomes, and if the snap effects individuals randomly, you'd see a normal distribution (I think, I haven't taken stats in a decade). So some survivors would retain 100% of their microbiome, some would lose it all, with a bell curve in between, probably with the peak around 50%.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 weeks ago

That bell curve would be extremely narrow. You have so many lil buggies that basically every human survivor would lose ~50% buggies.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the intention was sentient life as having Thanos stop the film to explain the terms and conditions of his snap would've impacted the pacing of the film.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

Does that mean for the people that got snapped, some will leave some of their sperm behind?

And pregnant woman might leave their fetus behind.

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[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

See... see this is the story content that belongs in the extended cut.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

As someome who is fucking stupid, what ghe hell is a gut biome and why would 50% of the world population disappearing affect it at all? And why would people be power blasting their bathrooms with diarrhea

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Your gut is full of friendly bacteria that help you digest your food and keep everything running smoothly and efficiency. This vast community of bacteria is called a gut microbiome. People with gut problems like inflammatory bowel disease and irritable bowel syndrome tend to have a much less diverse gut micribiome. Taking a broad spectrum antibiotic can devastate your gut microbiome, letting the bad bacteria thrive while the good ones are offstage, sometimes leading to some of the same symptoms that people with IBD and IBS might encounter, and it can take months to recover.

Killing 50% of all living things might include 50% of gut microbia, resulting in the potential for bloating, gassiness, stomach cramps, and potentially diarrhoea.

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[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Balance? Fucked up my sour dough starter is what you did Grimace.

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