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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

Haven't the battlelines been drawn already, with Harris' gov't opposite to Gaza?

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

Infinite genocide on Harris supporters (regardless of their reasons, fight me) rat-salute-2

Calling it on the entire west is unhinged but this, I'll say it straight to their faces if ever need be

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

I want to know the training notes. Like how to address the genocide. What are the talking points? Shame if that gets leaked. popcorn-time

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Who the fuck would they need to help anyway? Get some fucking blue fash that is supplying the genocide against them elected? No one that is supporting the Palestinian struggle for freedom is expecting them to go out and repay everyone for their support. What a fucking loser.

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[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

The 2024 democrats make George Bush look like Nelson Mandela by comparison

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

2024 democrats are why I advocate for bringing back impaling as a method of execution. I don't even hate republicans this much; at least they actually have a belief system, regardless of how fractally wrong it is.

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You do not have to hand anything to republicans.

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

Wanting the lesser of two evils on one issue to win is not the same as co-signing an entire party’s agenda.

I genuinely don’t understand how participation in democracy became conditional on 100% agreement on every issue. If you want a party to agree with you 100%, start a local party and run for local office in a non-presidential election.

Voting is supposed to be a civic duty, not a popularity vote and certainly not a purity test. Pull the lever and let the train hit one person instead of fucking everyone and everything. It’s not an intellectual exercise right now.

What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections? Just please be reasonable and realistic.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not gonna remove this post or ban you because I sincerely hope that you will take these replies to heart and do some introspection while leaving it up so as to provide an example of the smug condescending bullshit we are all tired of from you gormless liberals.

[–] m532@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

Not supposed to be a popularity vote?

Mask-off democracy hater.

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

It's not reasonable to vote for the party that is burning children alive, you fucking mutant.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

The lesser of two evils, when done over and over again with no discernable pushback, turns into a larger and larger evil over time. They only look substantially different if you have the memory of a worm, or refuse to look at the long-term picture.

Voting is supposed to be a way for the people to exercise their preferences on their government, not some race-to-the-bottom where the party changes but the policy (foreign wars and interventions, neoliberal approach to healthcare and education, funding police, bailing out banks) stays largely the same.

If you believe the political system is beyond critique or opposition, and that citizens have a duty to their officials rather than vice versa, you are already an authoritarian and an opponent of democracy.

What have Biden and Harris done about climate change (besides set aside more oil for drilling)? Women's health (letting Roe v. Wade slip)? The only change in immigrant detention was that they kept whole families together in the camps instead of separating them. And in terms of elections, they made crowned a nominee who won 0 primaries.

Republicans are bad but Democrats are a total red herring. There's no easy way out, because the same forces are acting on each party, with a little bit of kayfabe as distinction.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If we can't agree 100% on genocide being bad then they've lost the plot. And speaking of purity tests the dems are smearing people in congress criticising this as anti semites. Cori bush was fucked over due to this. Saying not voting is a vote for trump isn't a purity test? Plenty criticising the US empire being branded as a Russian bot isn't a purity test? Jill stein being called a russian asset isn't a purity test? Lets ignore that the issue you've said is a purity test is an ethnic cleansing coming on the back of a brutal apartheid where not even the bare minimum was done. What is done is the US cutting funding on the UNRWA that was for desperately needed food and covering up obstruction of food transport by the admin. It aint just Gaza btw but this is an example of whats wrong with this admin

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Wanting the lesser of two evils on one issue to win is not the same as co-signing an entire party’s agenda.

Meanwhile, in the screenshot: "Yes my life is more important than Palestinians... FUCK THEM!!!" Truly the words of someone who doesn't support their party's genocidal agenda.

I genuinely don’t understand how participation in democracy became conditional on 100% agreement on every issue. If you want a party to agree with you 100%, start a local party and run for local office in a non-presidential election.

Motherfucker: the dems are in 0% alignment with my stances on any issue. Whatever think tank lanyard wearer cooked up this weaksauce talking point needs to be fired.

Voting is supposed to be a civic duty, not a popularity vote and certainly not a purity test. Pull the lever and let the train hit one person instead of fucking everyone and everything. It’s not an intellectual exercise right now.

You're pulling out all the lib cliches today, aren't you? "Fucking everyone and everything" is going to be hit by that train just as surely if you pull the lever for the demonrats. Everyone who isn't a demonrat shill knows this.

What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections? Just please be reasonable and realistic.

The adults in the room know that K-dolf Hitler won't be any better on any of those issues than Drumpf the felon.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections?

Hey dipshit, which fucking president was in power when Roe v. Wade was culled? Which fucking president started mass deportations and the militarization of ICE? Which fucking president refuses to this day to close the concentration camps? Which fucking candidate(s, to be fair this one is bipartisan) is all-in on fracking for oil and fuck climate change? Which fucking candidate promised to bring in the same fascists you believe shouldn't have access to power into her cabinet?

Democrats to jack shit to deal with the problems you claim to care about. Supporting either fucking party will give you the same result, and if you haven't figured this out yet, you're either a fascist yourself or willfully ignorant

[–] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh look. A fucking moron.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

She's doing as bad as trump on every single issue and has shown to be worse on some (deportations). On top of that people like you gave a shit when he was in office.
People are willing to forgive all of that as long as she isn't committing a genocide. And then you have the gall to talk about 100% agreement? Pull your head out of your ass. It's not just "this one little issue" (and even if it was, it's a FUCKING GENOCIDE) it's the fact she does nothing on all of them.

What is President Trump II / President Vance going to do about climate change? Women’s health? Concentration camps for immigrants? Future elections?

The same as Kamala.
Kamala will be worse though, because if you let her get away with genocide, then the gates are open. There's nothing left. Showing the ruling elite that you don't even fight against that, shows them they can do whatever they want. Doing that will be so much worse than having a slightly ruder and more obviously decrepit version of Joe Biden in office.
You will stand one day and ask who will speak up for you, and no one will for they will all be gone already.

Also elections are literally a popularity vote, dumbass

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