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Just over half of interviewees (51%) in a Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University study, who identified as "people of faith," responded that they are likely to vote in the presidential election between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris. The "people of faith" label is given to those who identify with a recognized religion, such as Christianity, Judaism, Mormonism or Islam.

The study found that approximately 104 million people under the "people of faith" umbrella are not expected to vote this election, including 41 million born-again Christians and 32 million who regularly go to church.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 128 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Anecdotal, but there was considerable dissatisfaction and exhaustion with Trump amongst the religious in my hometown back in 2020. Most of them still supported and voted for him, but that any peeled off was novel. Not that they'd ever vote Dem, but simply not voting GOP in a presidential election was a big deal. It's not inconceivable that the number has increased since.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 81 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Perhaps one or two could even be convinced to support the party that advocates for charity, kindness and goodwill to the poor. Responsible stewardship of gods creation. Openness to forgiveness and redemption for criminals. Treating your neighbors well. Just generally doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, even when you do not fully understand them.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 73 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

No, let's stick to pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps the same way Jesus did: by having a powerful father.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

No that's communism, they'd say

[–] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

but abortion

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're fine with charity as long as they decide who is deserving of the money. They love government handouts as long as they are going to Christofascist pursuits. Just as Jesus taught us, I guess.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 72 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If they get write-in ballots, maybe write "Jesus Christ."

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Get out of here donagy

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Votes for Jesus go to the Republican."

  • Leslie Knope
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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

“Christians” is doing some heavy lifting in this headline

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Seriously, though. “Christians” includes anyone within the net of the Abrahamic religions? This is the widest cast of people possible makes everything said after the title insignificant.

What might be significant, though, is the Muslim population that is disappointed in Harris for not taking a harder stance against Israel, and has threatened not to vote at all.

Personally, I think it’s asinine to avoid a vote because the options are between someone who is not taking a hard line against Israel, and another who is on the record saying that Israel should “finish the job”, but then… I’m not a single-issue voter, so these things affect me differently.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not Muslim, but if my options were to vote for someone who wants to kill my family vs someone who won't stop selling weapons to those who are actively killing my family, I can understand why they wouldn't be super excited at those choices.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not really, if you look at the history of Christianity, they’re right on brand. You’re just accustomed to an odd kind of “Christianity-lite” that manifested over the past century of so, mostly to keep the religion alive as it risked being left in the dust by social progress.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago

I skimmed the study itself but couldn't find how this compares to 2020 turnout of the same group. Just that it's "lower" and has a +/- of 4% margin.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can they please not vote every year? A lot of them will be people who vote based on irrational ideas, so that'd be a win for reasonable people.

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[–] nick@midwest.social 16 points 3 weeks ago

Works for me. Fuck em

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not enough to not to vote. It’s critical the we vote AGAINST any and all of these extremists. That’s the only way to begin bringing any sanity to our political dialogue.

[–] Countess425@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

We live in a two party system. Not voting for your guy is essentially a vote for the other guy. Especially when elections are this close.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Considering about 30% of the general population votes, this is pretty significant - 20% more christians will vote than Gen pop

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, don't count on it. Republicans always vote and they are always vote shitty.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

How did I miss this story?!

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It would be ironic if all they did was show up to overturn roe, and this election would have had them sit out the election, but then due to the abortion ammendments they were pushed back into voting.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Calling BULLSHIT. What part do they disagree when it comes to religion?

  1. Child sex - supported by religion.
  2. Rape - supported by religion.
  3. Killing the innocent - supported by religion.
  4. Controlling women - supported by religion.
  5. Anti LGBTQ+ - supported by religion.
  6. Hatred of other races - supported by religion.

So what is it that will make them change this time?

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You might also point out, for balance, that the opposites of those things can also be expected within religious frameworks.

With or without religion, it is people who purposefully carry out those actions while more often than not being aware they can be conceived of as harmful. You can try to take religion away from people, but don't expect hate to go with it.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That seems odd to me considering that antiabortion rules are on the line. I would think they'd be especially motivated to support Trump and get the Senate flipped Republican to keep a federal law from getting implemented to reverse the decision that government can force doctors to let you die if a fetus is the one killing you.

[–] Chapelgentry@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

From my experience in my very red state, there's a high degree of cognitive dissonance when it comes to those things. A family friend who's very religious is secretly undergoing IVF even though the church banned it's use because they want a child more than the threat of excommunication. Supposedly they'll be forgiven for going against the church since they're "fundamentally good" people.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 3 points 3 weeks ago

Trump told them they would never need to vote again after this election.

A bunch of them probably stopped listening after they heard what they want to hear and didn't hear the part after "again"

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