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From Trump campaign signs to Planned Parenthood bumper stickers, license plate readers around the US are creating searchable databases that reveal Americans’ political leanings and more.

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[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

Ah yes, the freedom of owning a car.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 18 points 11 hours ago

Mount an e-ink display with a rotating slideshow of different images on your car until they have a record of your car having thousands of different bumper stickers.

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 43 minutes ago

Track-me-not, automobile edition.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe the crazies with an absolute mountain of nonsense obstructing their rear windshield and all over their bumper are the ones who are right?

Drive around with a permanent bike rack in the way of your tail plate. No front plates.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 30 minutes ago

I mean if you're planning on doing all these weird work arounds, just get a fake plate/mess with your old plates so the letters are more difficult to read.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

this will make them more likely to pull you over: each license plate will add to the number of potential cars under a warrant. Imo just don't use a car to commit crimes or get a ride.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Some states require front plates.

Blocking a plate with a bike rack isn’t a bad idea, except - a) the rack will wear your paint, b) any automated toll collection based on license plate reading will also be blocked. Probably NBD once in while, but if someone regularly skips tolls and is caught it’s gonna hurt. They just had a toll-skipper sting near me where they caught a crapton of people who regularly skipped tolls with license plate blockers and temp tags. They lost their cars instantly, a few got slapped with 6-figure fines and fees, and I imagine jail time might be on the menu for some.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 48 points 17 hours ago
[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

I've heard of card counters getting stopped by security when they try to walk into a casino, there are definitely ways to "make" someone's car and put it in a database but the tech is still spotty afaik.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 19 hours ago

This is old news from a decade ago, before the US public was aware how the police had long been fabricating probable cause (and gunning down Americans by the hundreds) and SCOTUS had been carving out exceptions to the fourth and fifth amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

Then Trump won in 2016 and we saw what it looked like under mask-off tyranny. And now we're one election away from one-party autocracy.

The police state is here. It always was. 🌍👨‍🚀🧑‍🚀🔫

[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago

before... SCOTUS had been carving out exceptions to the fourth and fifth amendments

They've been doing that shit since the country was founded. The fourth and fifth amendments only exist if you're a rich person and the cops need an excuse not to investigate you.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 12 hours ago

And now we're one election away from one-party autocracy.

Pretty this was is also

It always was. 🌍👨‍🚀🧑‍🚀🔫

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 44 points 20 hours ago

But a digital gun database is unconstitutional?

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Only for the government. The workaround for mass warrantless surveillance is to contract a private company. Since you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in public, it's not illegal to take a picture of your car as it drives by. You could do the same thing, just go outside your local police station and take pictures of the cars and write down the license plates and times they go by. Nobody will bother you because it's perfectly legal and the police obviously won't care that you're doing it because it's not illegal and they will thank you for making them feel safer.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

So what you’re saying we create a Credit Score system, but for guns. Might just work 🧐

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Since those cameras are so easy to deploy, it would be trivial to place them near gun stores and gun ranges, and other places frequented by gun owners, it's not a gun registry though. It's simply four catching criminals and for the children's safety of course. If you go against the police you are un-American

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 42 points 22 hours ago

This is and has been a big deal for a while. Do we really want easily trackable movements on every major road? What happens when they start feeding that data into federal fusion centers for cataloging and storage "just in case" they need it later?

What happens when a regime that criminalizes dissent has access to realtime vehicular and individual (via mobile phone) tracking data?

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[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 123 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Alright! Dystopian nightmare timeline is a go!

I especially like the part where cops are reported to heavily abuse these databases for personal agendas or to share with criminals. Truly ACAB

This is a very good reason to maintain the appearance of neutrality while facing your local community

This might even be an argument for putting those smoked opaque covers on your license plates even if it's questionably legal. There's more than a few people out there with definitely not legal smoked covers to the point you literally can't read their plates unless you're tailgating them, and cops don't give a shit because nobody is ever pulled over for illegal mods. I'd wager that the cameras can't read them either if you can't at 10 yards

[-] nnullzz@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

The real dystopian nightmare is the one where everyone conforms and acts neutral out of fear. That’s how we really lose who we are and any sense of improving the situation.

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this kind of thing is why I do not advertise my politics at all. no bumper stickers or yard signs or campaign t shirts. im even registered without a party so you can't look up my affiliation. and I don't talk politics on the internet because nothing is truly anonymous. if someone wants to come after you they will be able to find you with enough effort.

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 16 points 21 hours ago

Sounds like you're not loyal enough to The Party. If you were a good citizen, you wouldn't have anything to hide. Throw him in the gulag!

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago

there's a town nearby with dispensaries that have some amazing deals. there also happen to be three red light cams and two license plate readers the have been reported to give their information to out of state agencies and ICE on the two other stoplights in town. You can't convince me that's not some kind of honeypot.

[-] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

They literally scan your ID when you buy green in my state. They already know who you are and where you live. The cameras are to keep people honest (intimidated).

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[-] Avg@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago

Time for a bobby drop table sticker

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 23 hours ago

QR code sticker-bomb

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

Wow this article goes into the nuance. And it terrified me.

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[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

With enough readers ... Your location and minute by minute tracking of your every movement

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Or just the phone in your car or on your person.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 12 hours ago

Which has a pair of nice microphones!

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

Yeah that's pretty dystopian. Something worse hasn't been done with it probably just because many bad actors haven't been aware its an option.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

If you could access the database, then you could put a camera near an electronic billboard and then serve personalized ads to people as they drive down the road.

[-] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago

I’ve never wanted to post signs in my yard or put stickers on my bumpers because I didn’t want PEOPLE judging me. And people are judgmental. Now I’m glad I had that opinion because we have to worry about computers logging us so we can be judged in the future for whatever weird reason someone comes up with?

What happened to freedoms in America? It’s easy for a government to strip them after the people stop believing in them being important. Corporations are making free thought and self expression unimportant and dangerous and the gov’t will have no choice but to curb our freedoms in response. And we will cheer it on. I hate this shit.

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[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

I wish we could elect people we trust

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