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[–] PM_ME_UR_PCAPS@lemmy.ml 148 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

While you’re not buying that key, definitely don’t also pick up:

FEO-K1 - Most popular elevator key

EK333 - Popular cabinetry key

22343 - Linear popular key

C415A - Popular cabinet key

CH751 - Popular cabinet key

16120 - DoorKing popular key

Jigglers - For latches

1284X - Popular key for Ford police cruisers, taxis, machinery

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

I'm definitely not going to save this for later

[–] Gordon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Can confirm that the majority of campers and RVs definitely do not use either CH751 or EK333 keys.

[–] DuffmanOfTheCosmos@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1201 - popular key for arcade cabinets

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] roon@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Hmmm, I thought the TSA key(s) would make this list

[–] MyDearWatson616@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I found out that one of the keys I use for work is also used in the ignition of a kind of bush plane. Haven't had a chance to test it yet.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is this true? If so, wow that's insecure. Someone could easily sneak in some actually good snacks for reasonable prices! Even better then stealing

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not just vending machines. It's everywhere.

Very long, but well done talk on the topic: https://youtu.be/ZUvGfuLlZus?si=nr4Wa_XMxr8woq-P

[–] PM_ME_UR_PCAPS@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Generally good to just watch every video Deviant has ever made, at least his con talks.

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

A lot of lifts (scissor, boom arms, etc) use the same key as well.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who has actually.owned and operated lots of vending machines of different types over the years, no this isn't true.

You can buy vending machine locks that are keyed the same if, for example, you wanted all 12 machines that you owned to have locks that could be opened with the same key but the chances of that key opening any random vending machine you may encounter are about as good as your house key working to open your neighbor's house... Not impossible but not super likely.

In fact, just yesterday I picked up a vending machine key that it took a locksmith over two weeks to make for me with only the lock to copy it from because I'd lost my original for that particular machine.

I have several other vending keys that I tried (mainly because I was confident that one of them actually was the right key) but none of them worked.

Vending machine locks and keys are actually quite complex and varied.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

About the case you talked that you lost the original key.

How difficult/expensive to change the lock? Trying to make the key from the lock sounds more expensive but I am clueless.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Cost me $48 and change with tax... So more, yes but not too terrible.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I just noticed that you actually asked how much to change the lock...

They quoted me $35 to drill out the one I lost the key for and replace it with a new one and the corresponding key... I could have done that myself for significantly less by just ordering a replacement lock and key from Amazon, but...

I wanted a duplicate of the original because I do actually have several of these particular type machines that are intentionally keyed the same.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Oh ok I got it.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Next week on Mr beast. Stocking up vending machines with iPhones.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That would actually be a great video, especially if they weren't the clear front ones.

[–] Schlecknits@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

If you are from Europe, especially German-speaking countries: So called Buntbartschlüssel (literal translation: colorful beard keys) are very popular for older buildings and garden sheds as well as for interior doors in residential buildings.

There are around 70 different types with you being able to spot which one is need by just looking inside the keyhole, there are handy charts for this purpose.

[–] Spliffman1@lemdro.id 17 points 1 year ago

Our vending machine was so old ( and kept outside) that the hinges rusted right out and the door was just hanging there by a bit of the top hinge. So the key was irrelevant. Just thought I'd mention that

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen people pick those kinds of locks with the end of a pen they chewed on for a while.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tubular locks are extremely simple to pick. The only reason they're used is because they're cheap and used to protect cheap stuff, like food in vending machines

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some tubular locks are simple to pick and yes a modified bic pen is the poor man's pick but it's certainly not all of them that can be done that easily.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Anyone can pick the lock in seconds if they take the time to learn.

My dad owned a few vending machines when I was a kid. Since they were used, he had to replace the locks on all of them and taught us how to pick them. It's relatively easy to do so. I think he only ever ended up drilling out one of the cylinders while he was able to pick the rest.

A Bic pen won't work that well, but a $50 pick will.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I own a tubular lockpick set and have experience picking locks.

Not all tubular locks are as easy as you think they are, I assure you.

You can see my previous comment in this thread explaining that I've also owned and operated multiple types of vending machines over the years.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, perfect for just making it slightly too annoying for kids to get into toilet paper holders in public bathrooms.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The toilet paper and paper towel holders are usually not tubular locks...

Most of those can actually be picked with a small screwdriver or even a zipper pull from a coat or similar clothing item though.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are here in sweden, exact kind of lock as the image. Ever since i worked at a theme park i've been unable to not notice the locks lol

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting... The majority in the US are definitely not but they're actually much easier to pick than most tubular locks.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The reason they are used is because people think they are safe because they look special and, of course, they are also small and cheap.

[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lemmyvisitor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

where is the lockpicking

[–] atocci@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I have a key to those fountain drink machines. Yum, soda syrup.