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[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

"The only conspiracy is trying to elect Donald Trump. Nearly half the country voted to elect Donal Trump. Are they all part of the conspiracy?" -Summary of statement made by one of the defendant's lawywers

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God, that is such a pathetic defense.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Did we really expect better from the guy who doesn't pay his lawyers?

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nearly half of voters*

Half the country doesn't vote.

And to answer your question, no, most of them are not part of a criminal conspiracy. Most of them are oblivious bumblefucks who constantly ingest Fox propaganda telling them BLM == bad.

Edit: oh I didn't realize you were quoting someone else at first.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I didn't make the above argument. One of the lawyers did.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 8 points 1 year ago

Right right, I caught that after

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, This was a really weak argument to be made. The charges aren't about a conspiracy to elect Trump. They're about trying to convince the secretary of state to break his oath of office, intimidating poll workers, breaking into election offices and equipment, and more. It's such an asinine argument I'm kind of floored that the judge allowed it to stand. I guess the standards are lower at this sort of pretrial hearing?

[–] holiday@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

"Are you saying our victims are co-conspirators?"

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Saying something that stupid in court as an attorney should result in being immediately disbarred.

I’ve seen people making this argument online many times.

“Republicans are actively shielding Trump and interfering with investigations. This could be considered a legally defined conspiracy.”

“Half the country are republicans. Are you saying that half the country are criminals?”

It’s conflating an obvious commonality among participants, and the fact that politicians and party leaders are overwhelmingly participating, with the average voter.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Frankly, I am tired of pretending that anyone who still supports Trump at this point is too stupid and/or evil to ever be allowed to be part of representative government again.

[–] mb_@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

So, there's a conspiracy doing who knows what to achieve their goals? Nice admission..