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Built on unearned hype.

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[-] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago

When I copy and paste someone else’s work, I get called a plagiarist and get fired.

When OpenAI creates a robot that does it really really really fast, they make enough money to feed the planet hundreds of times over.

I don’t want to live on this planet any more.

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

Good, intellectual property is a mental illness of capitalism

[-] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

Sure, but I think recognizing someone when they accomplish something of value is important regardless of the economic system in place.

And in this Capitalistic society OpenAI is doing nothing but literally capitalizing on the hard work of thousands of individuals without giving them any form of recognition

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

Capitalism is incompatible with meritocracy.

It rewards ruthless capture and enclosure of other people's hard work and surplus value.

Read what Disney did to folk culture. Read what Edison did to his underlings, it is all a repeat of the "enclosures", the thefts of our commons for private profits.

If you don't know what the enclosures were, read this macabre story and focus on the people who attacked the fences and paid with their lives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Sugrue

[-] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago

You need to do more fancy thingy between the copy and the pasting.

[-] kritzkrieg@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

Can't wait for the AI boom to inevitably pop and all those billions that could have been spent on...literally anything else, go down the drain.

[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago

I listened to The Foundering on Sam Altman at the same time as listening to The Power Broker and they weirdly synced up.

  • They only have one solution for everything, believing more of that thing will solve everything ("Just one more scrape, just one more scrape of everything that's been said or published anywhere and our next model will be perfect.")
  • They don't care for the destruction left in their wake
  • They will walk over everyone, including their own family to remain part of the conversation
  • The only difference is Robert Moses was constrained to New York
[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

You are describing creative destruction

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Sounds like the perfect time for artists to sue and get their fair* share of that.

*All of it. They deserve all of it.

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Even its name is full of shit.

[-] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 days ago

Even its name is ~~full of shit.~~ a hallucination

There, fixed it for you.

[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Closed statistical algorithms would be more suitable but less marketing friendly.

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

The name use to be closer to the truth, but then money corrupted it - as it always does.

[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 days ago

There's been too much negative press surrounding OpenAI and Sam A. in the last week, now all of a sudden the company is worth $157B when all they've done is lose billions of dollars. Sorry if I sound cynical, but that's a load of bullshit. Bearish af.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I say we indict Sam Altman for both securities fraud and 8 billion counts of reckless endangerment. Him and other AI boosters are running around shouting that AGI is just around the corner, OpenAI is creating it, and that there is a very good chance we won't be able to control it and that it will kill us all. Well, the way I see it, there are only two possibilities:

  1. He's right. In which case, OpenAI is literally endangering all of humanity by its very operation. In that case, the logical thing to do would be for the rest of us to arrest everyone at OpenAI, shove them in deep hole and never let them see the light of day again, and burn all their research and work to ashes. When someone says, "superintelligent AI cannot be stopped!" I say, "you sure about that? Because it's humans that are making it. And humans aren't bullet-proof."

  2. He's lying. This is much more likely. In that case, he is guilty of fraud. He's falsely making claims his company has no ability to achieve, and he is taking in billions in investor money based on these lies.

He's either a conman, or a man so dangerous he should literally be thrown in the darkest hole we can find for the rest of his life.

And no, I REALLY don't buy the argument that if the tech allows it, that superintelligent AI is just some inevitable thing we can't choose to stop. The proposed methods to create it all rely on giant data centers that consume gigawatts of energy to run. You're not hiding that kind of infrastructure. If it turns out superintelligence really is possible, we pass a global treaty to ban it, and simply shoot anyone that attempts to create it. I'm sorry, but if you legitimately are threatening the survival of the entire species, I have zero qualms about putting you in the ground. We don't let people build nuclear reactors in their basement. And if this tech really is that capable and that dangerous, it should be regulated as strongly as nuclear weapons. If OpenAI really is trying to build a super-AGI, they should be treated no differently than a terrorist group attempting to build their own nuclear weapon.

But anyway, I say we just indict him on both charges. Charge Sam Altman with both securities fraud and 8 billion counts of reckless endangerment. Let the courts figure out which one he is guilty of, because it's definitely one or the other.

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[-] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 171 points 3 days ago

I really don't understand the hype about AI in it's current state.

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 143 points 3 days ago

It's not for you. Its for corporations who want to fire half their staff and replace them with an algorithm. That's why it has such a high valuation.

[-] Madrigal@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago

Those corporations are about to find out the fun way that these algorithms, in their current and near-future states, cannot replace human beings.

Well, except for maybe lazy copywriters who pump out pointless listicles and executives who do - whatever it is they do - but any non-trivial task requiring creativity and understanding is beyond these tools.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

You’re assuming that they care about running a viable service or product.

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[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

They could fire 3 layers of management without spending a dime while increasing productivity.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 3 days ago

Honestly the easiest people to replace with a bot.

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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago

That's because we're using it wrong. It's not a genie you go to for answers to your problems, it's mighty putty. You could build a house out of it, but it's wildly expensive and not at all worth it. But if you want to stick a glass bottle to a tree, or fix a broken plastic shell back together, it's great

For example, you can have it do a web search, read through the results to see if it actually contains what you're looking for, then summarize what it found and let you jump right there to evaluate yourself. You could have it listen to your podcasts and tag them by topic. You could write a normal program to generate a name and traits of a game character, then have the AI write flavor text and dialog trees for quest chains

Those are some projects I've used AI for - specifically, local AI running on my old computer. I'm looking to build a new one

I also use chat gpt to write simple but tedious code on a weekly basis for my normal job - things like "build a class to represent this db object". I don't trust it to do anything that's not straightforward - I don't trust myself to do anything tedious

The AI is not an expert, I am. The AI is happy to do busy work, every second of it increases my stress level. AI is tireless, it can work while I sleep. AI is not efficient, but it's flexible. My code is efficient, but it is not flexible

As a part of a system, AI is the link between unstructured data and code, which needs structure. It let's you do things that would have required a 24/7 team of dozens of employees. It also is unable to replace a single human - just like a computer

That's my philosophy at least, after approaching LLMs as a new type of tool and studying them as a developer. Like anything else, I ran it on my own computer and poked and prodded it until I saw the patterns. I learned what it could do, and what it struggled to do. I learned how to use it, I developed methodologies. I learned how to detect and undo "rampancy", a number of different failure states where it degrades into nonsense. And I learned how to use it as another tool in my toolbox, and I pride myself on using the right tool for the job

This is a useful tool - I repeatedly have used it to do things I couldn't have done without it. This is a new tool - artisans don't know how to use it yet. I can build incredible things with this tool with what I know now, and other people are developing their own techniques to great effect. We will learn how to use this tool, even in its current state. It will take time, its use may not be obvious, but this is a very useful tool

[-] Specal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You're doing it wrong, you're only allowed to hate AI and if you don't you're a crypto shill or something idk

[-] Fester@lemm.ee 42 points 3 days ago

It’s all leading to one final product: VR sex robots

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[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 35 points 3 days ago

It's not related to the technology, is the venture industry trying tp figure out the next unicorn, which they have been trying to find for the last ten years.

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[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

That's all it is, is hype. It's another bubble. A pump and dump scheme for hedgies.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago

Honestly, I can say I don't really get it either. I would only use the open source models anyway, but it just seems rather silly from what I can tell.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

It doesn't matter. Just understand that there are people who get paid way more than the average joe to hype the shit out these companies to attract investor value. Then get mad at capitalism like the rest of us.

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[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago
[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

I love his podcast.

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Ed Zitron is amazing. That dude just says it like it is.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago

Just a speculation bubble, no work no real technos, same as every other fucking ai company

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

It's the new crypto, NFT scam.

[-] xploit@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago

You guys want me to invest? I'm guaranteed to lower the stock value by ~30% within about a month with my shidas touch

[-] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

Yeah, do it!

I had a similar touch when I was younger. I’ve worked for Circuit City, Toys ‘R’ Us, and Blockbuster Video. Sadly, Best Buy somehow survived.

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Can you... Work for Broadcom? Or Oracle or EA, or something. Just a suggestion.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I gotta get employed there, but yeah similar effect.

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

If I had 10k to leverage I would be shorting the FUCK out of this, it's a bubble and everyone knows it

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 24 points 3 days ago

Market can remain irrational, etc

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[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 64 points 3 days ago

I can't wait for this current "A.I." craze to go away. The tech is doofy, useless, wasteful, and a massive energy consumer. This is blockchain nonsense all over again, though that still hasn't fully died yet, unfortunately.

[-] otter@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 days ago

Like blockchain there is some niche usefulness to the technology, but also like blockchain it's being applied to a myriad of things it is not useful for.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago

Also it’s not fucking ai is it. I actually find the blatant misuse of this term incredibly annoying to be honest.

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[-] match@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

i hope musk buys it and loses another $100 billion

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 45 points 3 days ago

Oh good! I remember when they said they couldn't afford to pay independent copyright owners. Now they can pay for the work they stole!

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Let's see for how long.

[-] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

It'S nOt A bUbBlE!

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Sounds like a bubble.

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