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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I feel like this thread is missing Australians and Kiwis saying that it's neither /ˈdeɪtə/ nor /ˈdætə/ but actually /ˈdɐːtə/. One of the Australian post docs in the group in which I did my thesis used that last one.

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Day-ta. The latter is how Americans pronounce it?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 18 hours ago

Dahtum

Dayta

[-] TryingToActHuman@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

Both. I feel like one of them always tends to fit the conversation better than the other, but which one that is seems to be totally random.

[-] waz@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Same with Caribbean. Royal Caribbean and Pirates of the Caribbean both sound wrong if you use the alternate pronunciation.

[-] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

You’re forgetting the third pronunciation, Dat-uh. “Dat,” as in DAT ASS youknowwhatI’msayin

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

If it’s well structured then day ta. If it’s more raw then dah ta.

Idk why, why the second way sounds more raw.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago
[-] derf82@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

One is my name. The other is not.

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago)

I mean the man told us how he prefers it, I don't understand why this is so hard for people

Edit: typo

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago

I pronounce it "data" of course.

[-] Tugboater203@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Of course! That's the only way to say it, all others are wrong!

[-] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Agreed. Does it have two Ts? Then it's not datta which you just instinctively rest as dah-ta

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 31 points 1 day ago

Both, randomly switching between them

[-] vermyndax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Same, and when I catch myself doing that, I wonder why I do it, then move on with life and do it again later.

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago

Depends on how much Star Trek we've been watching lately.

[-] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 day ago

Day-tah

And it's uncountable.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago
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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago
[-] nebulaone@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Both. I am german and I speak a weird amalgamation of british and american english.

[-] B312@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Same minus the german part

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[-] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Dah-ta in a day-tabase.

[-] Banichan@dormi.zone 20 points 1 day ago

Dat-uh is information, Day-tuh is a Star Trek character.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

One is his name. The other is not.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I use both. One feels more singular while the other feels more plural though I can't tell you which when you ask me. We have to sneak up on it together.

I have the same issue with "Thuh" and "Thee" for "The."

[-] Limfjorden@feddit.dk 10 points 1 day ago

"The" does have two pronunciations depending on if the word after it starts with a vovel sound or not. It's "Thuh" for consonants and "Thee" for vowels.

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No it's not... it's purely emphasis/stress via vowel reduction in English?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_and_vowel_reduction_in_English

[-] Limfjorden@feddit.dk 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm just going off what I learned in school in Denmark. According to lvxferre@mander.xyz it seems there is a lot more variation than I thought.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Please, i don't want to be self aware of my accent in my first language.

Also the two pronunciations of "the" noted above are different mouth shapes. "Uh" un butt versus "ee" in jeep.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's both things, and subjected to wide variation:

  • Stressed Unstressed
    Prevocalic /ði:/ /ði/, /ðɪ/, /ð/
    Preconsonantal /ði:/, /ðʌ/ /ðə/

Source for those pronunciations, Wiktionary.

To complicate it further some varieties merge /ʌ/ and /ə/, or /ɪ/ and /ə/. And I'm not even taking into account varieties using a different consonant, /t θ d f v/.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 hours ago

Ohh nice, that table helps. I felt like something was off about people sometimes using more /ði:/ than what I was taught!

[-] Balthazar@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago
[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago
[-] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That pronunciation always drives me wild! it only makes sense to call it data.

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Annoyingly I go back and forth because whichever pronunciation I’m on sounds worse than when I hear it the other way.

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[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I flip flop back and forth, I'm not totally sure if there's a specific rhyme or reason to my choices, it may just come down to a subjective feeling about which I think sounds better in the sentence.

My wife is a dayta analyst, and she analyzes dahta.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

It depends on how many ay's and ah's are in my sentence. My mouth seems to natural conform to whatever has more as I speak at 9 million words per minute.

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