Why do the police need machine guns?
this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2024
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North Hollywood shoot out mostly.
The Americans decided they needed them and of course we were not far behind for reasons.
That was a singular, isolated event, probably heavily influenced by the movie Heat. We've never had another robbery like that since then.
It was a singular event that was broadcast all over North America. Following that police departments in the states started getting surplus AR-15s.
And it shaped all police forces in the US for the entire decade after
Those G20 protesters could get out of hand and need gentle mowing.
Entrapment and kettling can only get a riot brigade so far.
RCMP - We're responsible cops.
loses 205 firearms in 4 years
RCMP - Whelp, accidents happen.
The article isn't clear on what is categorized as "lost" in this context. Are these all "we know for sure they were stolen" or are some of them "we couldn't find them when we did inventory, but they might just have ended up in an incorrectly-labeled box"? While neither of those is good, one is clearly worse than the other.
In total, 122 handguns, 55 shotguns, 23 rifles, three submachine-guns and two machine-guns have been reported lost by RCMP detachments across the country since 2020.
The data was obtained and shared exclusively with CTVNews.ca by Matt Malone, a government secrecy researcher and scholar with the Balsillie School of International Affairs in Waterloo, Ont. Malone is also the founder of Open by Default, a digital database that contains more than 5.2 million pages of documents released through Canada's access to information system.
In its response to Malone, the RCMP's access to information office said it "cannot determine specifically if a firearm was lost by a service member."
In other words, the article specifically says that they don't know (or at least, the RCMP won't say) what led to most of these firearms being reported as lost (we have external invormation in a few cases, like the trailer theft mentioned by another commenter, but not for most). There isn't even enough information there for us to be able to tell whether all detachments use the same criteria in deciding whether a firearm qualifies as lost.
The trailer article doesn't specifically say which police force owned the trailer of guns, and the RCMP doesn't take care of any policing in Ontario (except policing on federal gov't grounds) because that's done by the OPP.
Did they ever find that entire truck full of guns that went missing during the convoi?
Edit : answered my own question