this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2024
375 points (98.7% liked)

Technology

59402 readers
3076 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 109 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It’s very impressive that they got such a modern process up and running in such a relatively short period of time. I understand the Arizona location is relatively new.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, they're essentially doing trials where Arizona fab provides small amounts of sillicon that's being validated against what Taiwan fab does. While it was planned for 2024 I'm guessing everyone thought it would be delayed. It's quite a big win for US, they're on track to secure domestic supply of fairly modern chips in case shit hits the fan in Taiwan.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And they managed to do that with those lazy US workers? Wow.

E: folks, pls look up TSMC bosses' statements on American workers' ethic

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, if interested, check out this documentary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Factory. Has a lot of interesting crosstalk between Chinese/American views on work and business.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Such a sad documentary, especially the self sabotage union votes.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I know. I was devastated when I first watched it, because I was so sure it was going to pass...

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks, Biden! And the American taxpayer!

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Maybe, but Intel operates there so the labour pool is probably quite skilled already. Perhaps good supply chains too.

[–] 0x0f@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 month ago

more domestic production is great

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is HORRIBLE! I'm a Patriotic Republican and don't know why it's Horrible Yet but Biden did it so it's BAD!!

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

He did it to support the rich libtards! Not the poor working Republicans can no longer afford guns to stop the immigrants. And he hates Tiaywan !

/S

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We shouldn't be making water and energy intensive manufacturing in a hot desert.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anybody know if this has anything to do with Biden's Chips and Sciences program?

[–] QBertReynolds@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes. So far, the CHIPS Act has resulted in $6.6b in direct funding and an additional $5b in available loans for the AZ facility.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool. Thanks for the intel.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know what TSMC is. Figured it was a company.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure if you're serious, but they were making a joke because Intel, who makes chips, is a competitor to TMSC the chip manufacturer from the article.

So they played on that relationship by treating the word Intel in your "thanks for the Intel" comment as meaning the company.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No I meant intel, not Intel. Like 411. It was just coincidental.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bit by bit, Taiwan will be slowly sold off to China once they no longer hold the last thing that made them worthy of Western protection. Of course, there will be some harsh words of condemnation, but that's it. That's my theory. Sad but true.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's the reason I'm rooting for everyone, including China, to do well with domestic chipmaking. Makes everyone have little less reason to try this modern day mutually assured destruction.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

China: "this guys right, we are almost close to be our own chip manufacture and owning Taiwan."

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

That would be par for the course of my life decisions.

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

N00b question. Do these chips get transferred from USA to India/Vietnam for assembly and then back again to all over the world for shipping?

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

They may. But logistically I can’t see it being a problem. Each CPU is like 10mmx10mmx1mm. You could fit a TON in a 1m^3 box.

[–] Threeme2189@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Ideally 100,000 if my math is correct. Just be careful as there is no packing material except for the box itself.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›