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Donald Trump appeared to say that his running mate, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), isn’t weird because he’s “so straight.”

Trump was speaking at a town hall event in LaCross, Wisconsin, yesterday with former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii when he discussed how the Harris-Walz campaign has been calling Republicans – and especially Vance – “weird.”

“They picked this guy,” Trump said, referring to Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D), who has been vocal about calling Vance and Trump weird. “He is weird! Right? I’m not weird, he’s weird.”

“No, he’s a weird guy, he’s a weird dude,” Trump continued. “You know, they come up with soundbites, they always have soundbites, and one of the things is that J.D. and I are weird.”

Then Trump defended himself and Vance from the weird charges, calling Vance “so straight” and a “top student.”

“This guy is so straight? J.D. is so… He’s doing a great job, smart, top student, great guy, he’s not weird and I’m not weird. I mean, we’re a lot of things, we’re not weird.”

Totally straight and not weird.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 245 points 2 months ago (8 children)

It's honestly hilarious how badly being called "weird" gets under their skin.

Like, normal people are pretty weird. If someone called me weird, I'd be like "Yeah, true." But these guys are so out there that they feel a need to deny their own weirdness so that people can identify with them. It's just weird, TBH.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 103 points 2 months ago

This ticket is steeped in a toxicity that wants to be masculine but is not, and a deeply rooted misogyny.

It’s like the quote attributed to Atwood says, that what men fear from women is that they will laugh at them. This “weird” label hits a little too close to that for them to handle.

It’s fantastic. And so obvious.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

One of the key features of authoritarian follower personalities is that they're desperate to be normal. Like, they're terrified of the idea that they're not just like everyone else despite the fact that they are big weirdos. People who are afraid of being weird, or who get weirdly judgemental about weirdness, is a big red flag for me, personally.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Yea. Their entire structure of "give me power to fix your problems" quickly falls apart if people start to wonder whether the solutions will be ones they can empathize with or not.

They're sort of operating in this "I am your warrior" framework, making it seem like people are empowering one of their own, themselves, basically, to fix their own problems. That whole thing requires the chosen champion to be "one of them" though.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They honestly have spent their whole lives either wanting to define what is weird and/or associating with a set of people they think get to define what is weird.

It's an obsession with the conservative brain, I think. You could tell who many of these people were when they were in kindergarten or first grade. They could not STAND any kind of deviation from what they (or their parents, etc.) thought was a "normal" thing. So they'd yell taunts at anyone eating "weird" food", or taking up "weird" hobbies, watching "weird" TV/movies, or looking to take up a "weird" employment track, or they went to a "weird" church (or not at all, or - gasp - were going to some other building that was not a xtian church) and so on.

They defined themselves this way. And to have this turned around on them all so suddenly and uniformly. To be fair, people like Seth Meyers have been calling donOLD and friends weird for a very long time. It's just now the Democrats found some people with some goddamn spine and a platform to keep saying it and not apologizing for it. The Republicans ARE very weird. They spend their time obsessing over "murdered babies" (zygotes), where trans people poop, what gay men might be doing in the privacy of their own bedrooms, what religious doctrine other people may or may not follow, and so on. These are very deeply weird obsessions in a FREE country.

Free country means I and anyone else has freedom FROM their weird obsessions, including their little book club. I don't ever have to GAF about what they say their Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah (all same thing) says, because I have freedom FROM religion, just as they have freedom OF religion and can choose to stay in the religion they were likely born into.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

It's because that used to be their code word for gay, trans, queer (basically anybody that doesn't fit in their view of society) before they decided that woke worked better.

They've been using weird as a soft-insult for a decades.

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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 151 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well, I guess we're about a week away from Vance having a gay affair scandal.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 85 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

In his book he told his grandma he thought he was gay and she asked him if he likes "sucking dicks", and he said "no", so she told him he wasn't gay.

So no doubt he has some repressed feelings.

Edit - This of course could have been when he discovered he was into couches and dolphin porn.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sucking dick? Not gay.

A bear railing me in my ass while I rail a femboy twink in his? Still not gay. That's the secret guys. Just don't suck dick and never gay.

CartmanButters.jpg

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[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"I'll never forget the time I convinced myself that I was gay. I was eight or nine, maybe younger, and I stumbled upon a broadcast by some fire-and-brimstone preacher. The man spoke about the evils of homosexuals, how they had infiltrated our society, and how they were all destined for hell absent some serious repenting. At the time, the only thing I knew about gay men was that they preferred men to women. This described me perfectly: I disliked girls, and my best friend in the world was my buddy Bill. Oh no, I'm going to hell."

When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as "Mamaw" — she replied bluntly: "Don't be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you're gay?"

When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.

"JD, do you want to suck dicks?" she said, according to the book.

The young Vance, apparently "flabbergasted," said: "Of course not!"

"Then you're not gay. And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay," she replied. "God would still love you."

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

None of that makes sense as a truthful story. First I don't think a grandmother would use that "want to suck dicks" phrasing when speaking to her grandson, but also the laughing at him and saying "fucking idiot, how would you know you're gay?" is in direct contradiction to the later "it would be OK, god would still love you" line. Those two things wouldn't come from one person. I think it's a cobbled together story of things he heard from different people at different times, presented as a conversation with his grandmother.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

News flash: some people who want to have sex with penis-having people do not like having penises in their mouths.

(I'm not one of them mind you, but they exist).

[–] ArachnidMania@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

That’s kind of the whole point of that phrase being highlighted. It’s not that anyone actually thinks that because young J.D was asked about sucking dicks and he said no, that he’s magically removed of all homosexual thoughts, and to be gay you need to like sucking dicks.

The implication is highlighting to be that he could be repressed bi or gay from his grandmothers rhetorical question.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (10 children)

He appears to be referencing the ”straight and narrow” idiom. So “straight” as in “follows the rules,” not “heterosexual.”

That said, it’s funny to see how much “weird” gets under their skin.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

That said, it’s funny to see how much “weird” gets under their skin.

Not that funny, really. Conservatism is all about defining normality and attacking any deviation from it. "Weird" is the very definition for not normal. It's the antithesis of their meta value. Of course they'd hate it.

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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

“He is weird! Right? I’m not weird, he’s weird.”

Trump: no u

It's pretty weird for an adult to spend this much time denying that they're weird.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"This guy is so straight"

That's kind of a weird thing to say too tho.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vance looks like he’s sucked a bit of dick in his life (it’s the guyliner). Plus he was a jarhead and those guys are super gay (i’m a former soldier so i can say this with confidence). /s

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

We prefer eating crayons.

(Former Marine)

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And what shape are those? Super gay!

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago

You may have mixed cause and effect here. Marines crave crayons and will eat anything crayon shaped.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Super straights are the weirdest. Once knew a guy in highschool that claimed to be so straight he didn't even touch his own dick.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 15 points 2 months ago

Good logic.

Same reason I don't fuck women. Most women are interested in guys, which is something they have in common with the gays. No thanks.

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[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago (8 children)

All the ‘straightest’ guys I know suck a little cock if you get them alone…

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People who don’t use gay hook apps simply do not understand. You can hop on and find nothing but “straight” men, or blank profiles which are most assuredly married “straight” men. It can be frustrating if you are looking for a relationship/human beings who are okay with themselves.

We just need a black hat slutty queer to record themselves taking it from Mr. Couchfucker or some sufficiently big name Senator. It’s bound to happen eventually.

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It’s weird that he’s fixated on this so much lol

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People are assuming “straight” is a reference to his sexuality. I just assumed he meant “straight” as in what a criminal says when they’re referring to someone who isn’t breaking the law.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 months ago

Yeah, this feels like straight and narrow by an old man using old slang. Not that I doubt Trump being a raging homophobe, it's just the other context clues in the sentence.

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

2016 election they insisted that they supported gay people

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 months ago

It was one of the things my mother told me to defend the orange bad.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 2 months ago

Straight to to sofa department you big dumb bitch

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Ok Donny, you got this. All you have to do is come up with the most natural and least bizarre reason that Vance (ugh!) isn't weird. Just come up with it now and you can say it over and over again for the next two months no problem. Ok ok ok here comes the moment, what are you going to say?

"so straight..."

What happened? I wasn't paying attention. Covfefe. Hamberder.

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Only proves that Trump is weird. What a weird thing to say.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I'm still flabbergasted at how badly this "weird" label has affected him and Vance. OTOH, my not being able to even conceive of how their minds work is reassuring. But I love how they can't get over it. I hope Tim can come up with another one.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I really question why Trump would choose a running mate that previously was one of his biggest critics and hated his guts.

[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He absolutely loves having someone kiss the ring who previously trash talked him. It's like a fetish

It could also be a "look I converted this non believer" to try and gain more fanatics

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Straight up weird

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's just eating and eating at them, isn't it? Most especially donOLD.

He had nothing but #BidenSoOLD to run on before, and now he has to fall back on completely lame defenses of himself and the couch-fucker, while trying to attack Kamala by pointing out that she's black, a female, etc...the GOP are such losers for backing this dumbass.

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[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Straight as a furniture 🛋️🥵

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Straight for the furniture you mean.

Hide yo' kids, hide yo' women, and most defiantly hide yo' couch!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Listen, I only masturbate to ladies so I can't be weird. See username. Super normal.

What chuds.

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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Aren't couches non-gendered anyway ?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So directly saying they think gay people are weird.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That might be the weirdest fuckin thing he's said so far.

Also, that pic of Trump, Vance, and Johnson makes me think of the three stooges.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

No homo. No homo. You’re homo.

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