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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 191 points 3 months ago

It's a total mystery. Nobody can possibly know.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 120 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are still reposting that one picture of a burning Abrams from the 90s I think?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 80 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think there's a new one now, isn't there, from march? Of a "destroyed" Abrams, where the crew got out safely, turret still attached and probably recoverable.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's a couple of photos of abrams with fracked tracks that they've been claiming are "destroyed", that's been pretty great.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, if that happens on the retreat, that's still a loss of a vehicle. But losing a crew is almost always worse.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 months ago

I remember on some military channel how tank crews were terrified of burning up inside a tank (a common fate in WWII) and so the A1 was made as fireproof as they possibly could make it.

It may have just been history channel propaganda, though.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 97 points 3 months ago

Daddy Putz has a humiliation fetish.

He could easily take over the rest of the world but he’d never get hard again.

What a dilemma.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 72 points 3 months ago (17 children)

Ah yes. "Better." Although the only time I ever hear about the Ruskies' newest "better" tank is when gets blown up by a missile.

While I (American) am not a fan of the F35 - mostly because it costs so goddamn much money that could be better used for shit like infrastructure or healthcare - the Abrams remains a solid, proven platform. It's starting to show its age a little, but it's still MUCH cheaper and more practical to minority iterate than start from scratch. Whatever guy posted that was probably one of these 'Tankies' I keep hearing about.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

The US is planning for a new tank roundabout 2030. While right now it notionally is going to be an Abrams derivative, it is almost certainly going to be a completely overhauled new design and not a retrofit of existing tanks like what has been happening to Abrams.

Just something to point out to people who complain about the U.S. gifting stocks of vehicles to Ukraine. The U.S. was planning to get rid of them anyway.

The F-35 is an expensive program, and has undeniably had cost overruns, but from some of the poking around it seems the issues have also been exaggerated or different issues have been conflated, so without doing a deep dive, it is hard to say if the program is worth the bang or not.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

The f-35 has no peer, from a us perspective every dollar spent being ahead is a win.

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[–] DSTGU@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This post looks like sarcasm to me

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this def looks like satire.

However, there are THOSE people out their, in the wild.

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[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The thing with the F-35 is you'll never actually hear about it being "better" because there is no dogfight. It shows up, you die, that's it. In the real-world it would be like one guy showing up to a boxing ring to fight, and the other guy dropping a nuclear bomb on the stadium. The whole point of 5th gen fighters is that they don't engage, they have so much technology that they blow up the opponent before the opponent even knows they showed up.

Meanwhile, Russia's "5th gen" fighters can't get near the airspace because they both don't have the proper smart munitions, and don't have the physical capabilities to fly into an area blanketed in US AA weapons.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Reminds me of the latest Adam Something video. Russians are raised from birth with ridiculous amounts of "Russia Fuck Yeah" that's just pure triple distilled victory porn, and posts like that are the consequence.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You should check out some American movies. Those are also pretty wild

[–] ReCursing@lemmings.world 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My favourite line from any of the Grand Theft Auto games is from a radio ad for some movie that ends with "Rated PG for Patriotic Garbage"

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As an American, American jingoism in films does make me laugh. Like we are the only ones who can save the world.

Does Russia have films like that?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 18 points 3 months ago

Well, there's books like that. The idea seems to be that the problem with Nazis wasn't the whole genocide thing, but rather the fact that they invaded Russia. So let's do this: go back in time with modern equipment, ally with Hitler, and march on London and bomb Washington.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 16 points 3 months ago

jingo unchained

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Start from American movies, then add a bunch of historical rewriting and fighting Nazis everywhere and you're getting close to Russian level movies from what I've heard.

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[–] whenthebigonefinallyhitsla@kbin.run 46 points 3 months ago (3 children)

f35 is like a bee if you tell it it can't fly it will drop out of the sky

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Little know fact: bees are fly-by-wire

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah so the country which is currently struggling to re-secure its own territory following a battle that was part of protracted invasion that it started with every possible advantage and bungled so hilariously that the local citizenry literally thwarted your goons by changing road signs around is the most superior army in the world? Riiiiight

[–] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why are the leaves speaking Russian?

[–] cryptiod137@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The maple syrup started to ferment in the heat

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You fool! I have only used 10% of my full power so far!

- Putin, in his wet dreams

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[–] Banichan@dormi.zone 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Of course it's a Canadian on 4chan 😂

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Canadian". You can manually change your flag.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"As a ~~black man~~ Canadian...."

[–] SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social 47 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is clearly a deep fake. Russians can't produce that much food in one picture.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (14 children)
[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Whats on the image has to be satire right? They are literally describing all the issues Russia is having with their equipment, then asking why they can't fight the US with their superior gear.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

It's 4chan, so who knows. I was assuming it was propaganda, or a Tankie true believer.

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[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

That's a Russian talking point from 2022. It's like seeing a vintage car on the road.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Why are they putting Abrams in quotes and not mighty as if that’s not the real name of the tank

Bait?

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

we can assume it’s bullshit since it was posted on 4chan. Otherwise, someone thinks something stupid. Ok

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

If this is that post is serious, that is some cope from a Russian troll.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Clearly none of these are worthy to battle the mighty t-14 so it just slumbers awaiting a formidable challenger or leopard

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