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Discussion topic for you all, I’m curious to hear everyone’s thoughts on this!

The question: is there a good way for companies to federate and participate in the fediverse?

While the early fediverse has been fun and ‘old internet’ feeling, I’m sure most of us recognize (especially with IG Threads coming out) that it’s only a matter of time before companies start wanting a slice of the action.

While there is a ton of potential for abuse/EEE, there are also some big benefits that could come with a more widespread adoption. Is there a model that could work for everyone? And if so, how could we get there?

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[–] chris@fedia.io 9 points 1 year ago

Companies can host Mastodon (or Lemmy or whatever) on their own domain. That way they have control over the instance and it implicitly verifies their account as official. Raspberry Pi already do this (raspberrypi.social).

[–] Hazzardis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep seeing that acronym EEE, forgive my ignorance but what does it mean in this context?

[–] lordcommander@waveform.social 10 points 1 year ago

Embrace, extend, extinguish. Basically pretend to support the platform, pull users over to your product by building a bunch of cool features, then when you hit critical mass end cross-compatibility/support for the original platform.

[–] MarioBarisa@vlemmy.net 5 points 1 year ago

It is, but it's not likely as lots of them are in it only for the money.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think the Fediverse should be seen as two distinct parts: one that hosts user accounts and provides a user interface, and one that publishes content and provides discussion space.

Ideally, the first would remain independent from major companies, while the second would become universal for all web content.

[–] Pekka@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

I think this is very hard at this point. Manny Fediverse communities are quite small and fear that their community will be flooded with content from any external platform. We even saw this when a lot of Reddit users came over to Lemmy. So in those cases there will be a lot of distrust.

Smaller companies could easily use a more strictly controlled* Lemmy instance to provide a space for their community. That would allow people to interact with that community without having to setup a new account. *Tightly moderated and limited to admin created communities.

But anything large will just be distrusted as long as the platform is much larger than large Fediverse instances. Maybe EU law could help to protect the Fediverse from EEE. But EU law also moves slow, and we don't want laws slowing down the growth of the Fediverse either.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it could work if companies followed EEE but just stopped at the 2nd E. They should only embrace and extend and the extensions they implement should be available for everyone. But that's probably more of a pipe dream than anything.

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