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Trump's greatest sin for liberals isn't racism or disdain for Democracy, Bush has him beat by a long shot on both counts, his greatest sin for them is a lack of manners. We laugh at Trump because he is a visible and omnipresent symbol of sociopolitical decline, and also because he is a completely hilarious creature. Maybe the most pro-Trump position on here is an ambient desire for a hard left pro-labor candidate to embody some of his mannerisms and mock the DNC Managerial Class into submission like Trump did with the Republicans, but nobody actually likes any of his policies or ideas.

Praise for Trump here comes in three flavours (none of them are actual approval of his policies):

-Just blatant sarcasm/irony/nonseriousness.

-Accelerationism. His blatant idiocy you'd think would make it obvious to more people that the USA's system of liberal democracy is deliberately and unsaveably flawed, and his awful policies might bring about change sooner. Just the fact that he was on the ballot without a riot at every polling station seems to indicate this 'acceleration' didn't really happen.

-Equivocacy. A bit like the previous point, his time in office illustrated how much it really doesn't fucking matter, Biden has overseen Roe v Wade being overturned and done absolutely nothing about it. The choices you get in elections are very close to meaningless and basically nothing but a bit of performance art while the ruling class carry on as normal. It forces the question to be more focused if we're going to engage in absolute bullshittery of 'blue v red are the only choices ever'.

he is swamp-ass incarnate, our big wet sloppy pissboy, may he one day have a heart attack on live TV. he's not the guy we need, he's the presinald the US deserves.

for context I am a taxpaying US citizen (Death to America).

clearly everyone here is lying and you all love Trump, you can't fool me

I critically support him destroying what trust was left internationally in the American empire as an institution whose promises hold any value. Also, he is funny sometimes and a good poster. He still belongs in prison with every other president and most politicians.

We have some positions in common with Trump, mostly by coincidence. Opposing the EU, "free" trade agreements, all Democrats, paying for military bases worldwide, and funding and encouraging proxy wars against Russia. Supporting relations with DPRK and ending the war on Afghanistan.

Some libs think because we oppose Biden means we support Trump. We just don't think Biden is the solution to Trump, as they're both symptoms of the same problem, capitalism and oligarchy. We don't support Putin because we oppose the US's proxy wars with Russia, they're symptoms of the same problem.

The left-right dichotomy in popular US media is a center-right v far-right split for us, two hemorrhoids on the butthole of capitalism. We generally don't support the popular narrative. The dichotomy we see is between working class and owning class. Imagine our detractors as oil executives, feds, cops and landlords, and anti-socialist propaganda gains valuable context. We generally support communist revolution as the solution, not voting for outspoken anti-communists.

I'm not US, I don't support any US president, and the only candidate I would sincerely (rather than tactically) support is Vermin Supreme.

and I mean that sincerely, Vermin is well-read and principled despite their culture jamming.

I understand that the US national voting system is fundamentally broken (FPTP) so I can understand someone tactically voting for the Democrat Party simply to avoid a Republican Party candidate. But this shouldn't be mistaken for support nor approval.

Trump will be confined to a cell where he can't do anything but post. his term in the gulag will consist of nothing but posting, creating content for us hogs. if studies show that giving him the title of president of some made up place like America magnifies his posting potential, he can have it. but crucially, under no circumstances will he be given any actual decision making power over anyone ever.

No, and i actually make it a point to write in Hillary Clinton at the next general election here in Germany because it's her turn

Give me five minutes alone with Trump and a serrated butter knife

I did not expect so many responses, thanks 🥲

No, absolutely not.

Occasionally I've seen someone (there might even be some in this thread) get some stupid 5th dimensional chess idea about how Trump is going to accidentally create the conditions for communism somehow (I saw this for Biden too once). It's the sort of weird nonsense Americans come up with after realizing that our political situation is FUBAR, but they don't want to give in to doomerism and they can't concieve of anything beyond voting every 4 years. It's incredibly stupid and tbh deserves to be bullied more.

Broadly speaking, the main difference between Trump and other presidents is that he says the quiet parts out loud. He is very openly and explicitly bad, compared to the others that put on nice pretenses while enacting essentially the same policies. We often focus more on exposing these "fake friends" because sometimes well-meaning people get fooled by their lies, whereas nobody well-meaning likes Trump. It's just less interesting to talk about stuff where we're all pretty much on the same page.

i don't hate anyone, i am not about hate in general.

that said, I would enjoy watching Donald Trump being eaten alive by ants

some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don't know what's serious and what's irony

literally 90% of the emojis and banter on this site are ironic how is this not obvious

the trumpster is a disgusting obcenity, a tacky rich asshole bigot who's gone through life scamming workers, abusing women and all the rest we all know. of course every potus is evil just by presiding over amerikka.

hes funny tho.

Absolutely not. I 100% support the destruction of America

Nobody here actually wants Trump in power, nor do they want Biden or any other liberal. Most of us are communists or anarchists. We want world proletarian revolutiin, the overthrow of the ruling clasd and replacement of capitalism by socialist protects.

Trump is funny, though. He says and does funny shit. Irony-poisoned people like us use his image and sayings ironically and sometimes because they're just funny to reference.

You might find folks saying that Trump is less harmful than Biden or pointing out that the difference is two sides of the same kind. Again, communists and anarchists. We look critically at what the supposed "good guy" liberals do and honestly, if you try to tally up harms or do an analysis of why things are getting more fashy, it's not unreasonable to come to the conclusion that it's a wash or that they're not truly oppositional in character, just different styles to capitalist monstrosity that feed off one another.

Trump is the figurehead of the Fourth Reich. Fuck him and everything he stands for.

Every American president is a war criminal. Trump is no exception, he just happens to be an open asshole about it. It's funny watching Libs get butthurt because instead of just bombing poor brown countries, he also insults them at the same time. Every single US president is going to hell if it exists.

Fuck Trump.

...but I unironically want Biden to lose.