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Blinken says US has 'serious concerns' about announced result of Venezuelan election (abcnews.go.com)

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U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the United States has ‘serious concerns’ about the announced result of Venezuela’s hotly contested presidential election that authorities say was won by incumbent Nicolas Maduro.

Speaking in Tokyo on Monday shortly after the announcement was made, Blinken said the U.S. was concerned that the result reflected neither the will nor the votes of the Venezuelan people. He called for election officials to publish the full results transparently and immediately and said the U.S. and the international community would respond accordingly.

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[+] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works -71 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It actively effects us when they get together in a caravan and cross our border because their county is corrupt all the way at the highest level.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if your country didn't get involved into fucking up the democracy of that region for corporate interests, I would have some sympathy.

[+] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works -36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yes, because we printed all the Bolivar they printed causing hyperinflation. What in the fuck are you talking about?

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think they’re referring to the countless South American counties that America has meddled with in the past.

Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina, etc.

Basically, you reap what you sow.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Yep. That's it.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

LoL sorry buddy, but you clearly don't know your history. Come back after you read about American influence in South American politics since WW2.

Here's a place to start:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America

[+] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works -15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Let's just looks at Venezuela.

If we're using Wikipedia as a source you might be interested in these parts

Madsen alleging U.S. Navy involvement.[21] U.S. Senator Christopher Dodd, D-CT, requested an investigation of concerns that Washington appeared to condone the removal of Chávez,[22][23] which found that "U.S. officials acted appropriately and did nothing to encourage an April coup against Venezuela's president" nor did they provide any naval logistical support.[24][25] CIA documents indicate that the Bush administration knew about a plot weeks before the April 2002 military coup. They cite a document dated 6 April 2002, which says: "dissident military factions...are stepping up efforts to organize a coup against President Chávez, possibly as early as this month.

According to Michal Hertik, there is no benevolent relationship between the Chávez government and United States as a great power. Chávez is not interested in US foreign policy (actually President Bush's beliefs) including "creating a unipolar or bipolar world, effort to create a powerful empire". So he tried to break US imperialism and its interference in the affairs of foreign nation-states. Although he never tried to make South American countries agree with him.[17]

Chávez initially accepted assistance from anyone who offered, with the United States sending helicopters and dozens of soldiers that arrived two days after the disaster. When defense minister Raúl Salazar complied with the offer of the United States' further aid that included 450 Marines and naval engineers aboard the USS Tortuga which was setting sail to Venezuela, Chávez told Salazar to decline the offer since "[i]t was a matter of sovereignty". Salazar became angry and assumed that Chávez's opinion was influenced by talks with Fidel Castro, though he complied with Chávez's order. Though additional aid was necessary, Chávez thought a more revolutionary image was more important and the USS Tortuga returned to its port.[19]

They always hated us for no reason of our own. And wanted to take our spot as a super power. They failed.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

No. Trying to get rid of American influence and being independent without any US involvement is not trying to take a spot at being a super power. Get real.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So he tried to break US imperialism and its interference in the affairs of foreign nation-states.

They always hated us for no reason of our own.

LMAO, yes, NO REASON AT ALL

[+] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You won't even list the reason other than "we stopped buying their oil" lololol.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

and its interference in the affairs of foreign nation-states.

[+] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

After Hugo Chávez was first elected President of Venezuela by a landslide in 1998, the South American country began to reassert sovereignty over its oil reserves. This action challenged the comfortable position held by U.S. economic interests for the better part of a century.

The US liked having cheap access to their oil, and the Venezuelan people decided they didn't want private interests taking advantage. That's well within their right, and more countries should pursue nationalizing their industry against American hegemony.

Fuck American private interests, and fuck their corrupt political dogs. America has whatever is coming to them, too. America meddled in so many economies their moral judgement became not even worth wiping your ass with. They were always greedy like that.

[–] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's well within their right, and more countries should pursue nationalizing their industry against American hegemony.

And go ahead? When you bankrupt your country don't blame USA for all your problems lmao.

You still fail to say anything we did other than stop buying their oil.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Speaking of not reading your sources:

The Bush administration consistently opposed Chávez's policies. Although it did not immediately recognize the Carmona government upon its installation during the 2002 attempted coup, it had funded groups behind the coup, speedily acknowledged the new government and seemed to hope it would last. The U.S. government called Chávez a "negative force" in the region, and sought support from among Venezuela's neighbors to isolate Chávez diplomatically and economically. One notable instance occurred at the 2005 meeting of the Organization of American States. A U.S. resolution to add a mechanism to monitor the nature of American democracies was widely seen as an attempt at diplomatically isolating both Chávez and the Venezuelan government. The failure of the resolution was seen by analysts as politically significant, evidencing widespread support in Latin America for Chávez, his policies, and his views.

[–] Snowflake@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They are talking about the Carmona govt in that bold highlighted part. Nice try though. Isn't it weird how it's always Colombians who try to kill him. If you know Colombians ask them what they think about Venezuela.

Then what your upset because we proposed some resolution at a meeting which the resolution didn't pass votes. Keep throwing shit at the wall. How much do they pay you?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

Lmao, right, the US regularly meddled in foreign affairs of states around and aligned to Chavez and the Venezuelan government. Is this like when my brother used to stick his hand in front of my face while saying "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you"?

Honestly, by what standard are we saying the US needs to 'meddle' in a country before that country is justified in pursuing their own interests and foreign policy goals? I don't think anyone is under the assumption that the US is incapable of fucking with any country they want simply by throwing their massive economic and military weight around in the pool. "Why are these countries mad at us, we're doing nothing wrong?!"

GTFO lol

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Removed, civility

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Oh no, poor people crossing an imaginary line, how will we survive this

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

Noooo don't work in our economy and produce exploitable value nooooo