chapotraphouse

Lmao what is this person talking about. Even liberals are welcome here if they engage in good faith and are respectful.

We might boldly tell them their ideas are bad or skewer their sources but that's not rude - this is our space - of course we won't let contrary ideas be disseminated without challenge. As long as they are polite things generally go well. If they ask real questions people will generally be nice and willing to reply.

We can be initially harsh sometimes but the visiting liberal must remember the context: we have years of history of wreckers and assholes coming here with gotcha questions and bad faith. We're a little jaded there. But it's a reflexive self defense and we are vindicated in that vigilance because we are still standing as a safe place to discuss leftist ideals and organizing. We can say we dislike capitalism without having to deal with 30 of the same tired liberal criticisms. Surely they must appreciate how tiring that is even if they disagree with what is being said. Imagine if every time you said "I prefer Coca-Cola" a host of Pepsi Locusts descended to chatter about how wrong you are and piss and shit all over. Exhausting.

And yeah we might be wholly intractable on certain issues but that's because we do have some zero-tolerance rules and they are there for a reason. So no, you can't come in here and ask why it's okay for black people to say the n word and it isn't for white people. Nobody here is going to be defending you for asking it with a quote from Voltaire. It's not happening. Deal with it. It's not a big ask.