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[–] beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It’s not just Trump’s. This is not going away. That’s my point

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's a concerted effort spanning almost 70 years and I agree, they're not going away at all.

It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).”

The rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set about to undo all the trade, tax, and housing policies, labor and consumer rights, everything, he'd done. They very much want a return to the gilded age with themselves as the robber barons and gentry. They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.

I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. We only have soap, ballot, bullet, and jury boxes and obviously the soapbox has limited impact.

Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

edit: tl;dr the shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again because they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people and they're winning

[–] beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is more effective to educate conservatives on why white supremacy is wrong. Buying a few little pew pews isn’t going to stop them. Maybe buy you some time to slip out the back.

Perhaps demand they craft legislation on media outlets. Have you noticed the History channel plays nothing about history anymore and is all reality tv?

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course we should try to reach out and educate, the soap box and the ballot box are always the first and second choices; but you sound like someone with nothing to lose. What happens when the attempt at "education" fails? When the attempt to speak civilly is met with red-faced screaming? When you try to use reason and they use an armed mob.

I wonder if anyone just tried educating Hitler about how antisemitism is wrong.

I'm in a deep red state. I have no interest in letting a caravan of MAGAts come into the singular liberal, "crime-infested blue city" within 200 miles to Rittenhouse some "groomers" because their guy gets to be dictator "for a day."

[–] beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Their hate is fueled by manufactured propaganda, an outrage machine controlled by billionaires. The media needs to be regulated immediately and some Monopolies need to be broken up. There is no better time than now

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

That’s fair. Let’s label it Trump for now, and slot in the next conservative as needed.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

For the purposes of the election, yes, it is trump’s