this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2024
124 points (94.9% liked)

World News

39019 readers
2525 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not a dude, and the US got along much better with China, until around 2019 when the wars in the Middle East were winding down and the US needed a new justification for defense contracts, and when it needed to shift blame for botching COVID. That's when all of a sudden everyone started hating China for no other reason than the news said to.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

I would say the US got along better with China until American citizens started to get freaked out that there was another country that was becoming a bigger economic and military power than they were.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Uhhhh sure let's go with that and ignore the growing abuse of sweat shops or the muslims China abuses or the bullshit happening in the sea or Myanmar or Tibet or Taiwan or their relationship with North Korea

Look the US ain't a good guy either but all you fucks act like China is lol

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm glad that the US has suddenly started caring about labor rights and the well-being of Muslims, and I'm sure that it's just pure coincidence that it happens to be aligned with criticizing and fear-mongering it's largest competitor.

There are plenty of poor countries with worse conditions than China. Major multinational corporations set up shell corporations to run their sweatshops and if they get exposed they say, "We had no idea," maybe pay a tiny fine, then set up another company to do the exact same thing. Many of these countries are in the US's sphere of influence, and many have to sign away control of their own domestic policies as a condition for entry into the global marketplace, while their resources, stolen by force by colonizers, remain in foreign hands.

Why isn't the US concerned about their labor conditions? I'll tell you why: because one of those cases means giving more money to rich corporations in the form of defense contracts, and the other means restricting the ability of rich corporations to exploit the poor. All the bombs the US is building will do nothing to improve the conditions of anyone living in China, while there are plenty of people who the US could be lifting out of poverty if it cared to.

The sudden decline in relations was not because the whole US just woke up one day and decided to start caring about the conditions of laborers in China, which used to be much worse than today. Don't feed me that nonsense.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The relationship was never good I dunno where you live but China has always been considered not a real friend by the US. Business doesn't mean good relations lol

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I didn't say the relations were good, but they were certainly a lot better 5 years ago.