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[–] TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net 74 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I see a couple (Hopefully now former?!) libs saying they've been radicalized over this whole thing. Honestly now is a good time to try spread the good word of Karl Marx to the unenlightened.

[–] ProgAimerGirl@hexbear.net 70 points 4 months ago

lenin what is to be done seems more apt given the timetable. not a lot of time for linen and coats

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We should also take the opportunity to point out to the scared and radicalizing liberals that they are now fully in the same boat as us: "You heard the fascist, whatever your feelings are about anarchists and communists, the nazis don't know the difference. It's all The Demonic Left to them so congrats, you've been drafted to the good guys."

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Liberal, to me, is anyone who supports any part of pro-capitalist ideology and goals, whether it be

  1. settler-colonialism/right-libertarianism (America's process to becoming such country)

Also known originally, as propetarianism/classical-liberalism, a le John Locke and Adam Smith...

  1. neoliberalism/IMF structural adjustment of exploitative debt and cuts of social spending, privatization (post-cold war economic policy of capitalism, a l'Amerique, to expand capitalism,)

  2. pro-west regime-change NGOs, gulf-state-esque collaborators, and comprador nation-states (post-cold war foreign policy, to defend capitalist interests)

Liberals change and flow, by their material conditions and situation... in fact, libs only occurred as a result of bourgeois (bourgeois now is a historical term to me) classes trying to justify themselves as a whole, as the new dominating system

Eg. One liberal in rev. France may support beheading monarchies, while a whig lib or Kerenskyist lib in the U.K or Russia may support the Royalty itself

  • deathtoreddit

That's how it is for me... that being said, you're probably gonna criticize me, are ye?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 42 points 4 months ago (4 children)

No, I was honestly curious. People throw "lib" around so much I'm surprised it actually has a meaning. Thanks.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In leftist spaces, Lib has the above meaning. In conservative spaces, it's a slur for anyone to the left of Mussolini, including Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Communists like Biden, socialists like Bernie, and Anarchists like Gavin Newsome of course

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

Don't forget Antifa Thugs like Howard Schultz

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

Oh thank God, you don't speak in bad faith...

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

forgive us for being a bit bristly at times, we're used to this interaction going one and only one way typically. welcome! enjoy your time here meow-hug

[–] TC_209@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Thank you for asking questions in good faith; it's woefully uncommon and very appreciated.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

Not everything needs to be an argument online. Probably better if people realize 98% of discussion online is not zero sum.
Enjoy the rest of your week!

[–] TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Well they literally called themselves libs so I guess I just trusted them.