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[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I can smell poop without going into a sewage pipe

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

so it shouldn‘t be difficult for you to show me some examples of Putin shilling hexbear users, right?

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You just had to make me put my hand in that burning pile of horse poo: https://hexbear.net/post/2763869

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

what is it with the poo, man?

15 days old poo, mind you.

I mean, it‘s pretty unimaginative to label these guys Putin shills. These guys are fed up with the way the Western world is run. They are fed up with the hypocrisy of liberal politics. And maybe there’s something to it, no? The way all others are preaching nationalism, the sanctity of our markets and success, hexbear to me really feels like a bit of fresh air.

[–] Blu@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I kinda don't want to dip my toes in this, but here goes:

I agree that it's occasionally a breath of fresh air. The issue I've always had with Hexbear is they've more or less replaced one version of American (and to a lesser extent European) exceptionalism with another. Where American nationalists consider America to be exceptionally great, Hexbear considers it to be exceptionally evil. They routinely attribute domestic incidents in different countries to American meddling--regardless of evidence--even when those events either achieve nothing for American geostrategic goals or actively harm them. America as the "great Satan," etc.

Just an example because I remember it: Imran Khan lost an internal power struggle in Pakistan. He was probably the most west-friendly candidate left there, but Hexbear blamed a CIA coup https://hexbear.net/post/186331

In the same vein, they permit or even encourage Chinese aggression against the Philippines, within the Philippines' own exclusive economic zone. You can't substitute one form of imperialism for another. It's a trap I see a lot of leftists fall into.

I think most of 'em are alright. Just growing into leftist thought still and grappling with the moshpit that is international politics. Also they're funny lol