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[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

More accurately, I would say these types react to someone criticizing the status quo, which is typically right wing. These types are usually sheltered white guys who have had very few problems with the status quo because, well, they're white men.

[–] Drhype@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot rich, no matter colour as long as you are rich

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was poor as dirt and was like this for a long time.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's called "conservative" for a reason, you could say. Good point.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Idk, I'm just voting for the least shitty candidate out of the two and moving on. I don't get why people care about parties at all and just focus on the issues that need to be solved and how they say they are going to solve it and what their character says about what they most likely are going to mess up.

I don't take sides but I still want to see big changes that from my point of view would improve things for everyone, splitting giant companies and Foster competition, improving infrastructure to help create jobs, a deep focus on fixing root issues in healthcare instead of just slapping a bandage on it, better affordable internet accessibility for farmers and rural towns, as well as taking steps to preserve the environment for future generations, etc.

I don't get the hate from all these people, I'm not even in the middle I just care about what I think needs to get done.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The meme isn't about party, it's about right and left. The things you want are left wing in the American context. In fact, your positions on healthcare, the environment, and splitting up companies is to the left of where both parties right now. Like most Americans with a lick of sense and decency, you want the world that the left strives for but think left and right means Democrat and Republican. The fact is, the Republicans are extremely far right and the Democrats do a shit job at delivering for the left because they are funded by wealthy interests. The meme is calling out right wingers that proclaim themselves centrists, not people who are to the left of the Democrats.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The issue is that right now one entire party has become an issue that needs to be solved.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To each its own, this picking sides and fighting thing is counter productive and draws focus from the real issues.

That's just my stance, abolish all parties and let a man stand on his own merits proving that he will act on the promises he has made to his fellow man.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not counterproductive when one side wants to do horrible things to people like me and my friends and the other doesn't. When one side actively endangers people and takes their rights away and the other doesn't. Those are very, very real issues to a lot of people, and acting like that doesn't matter at this point is just willful ignorance. You don't have to identify with one side to openly disagree with the other. You can prefer a system without parties or teams without refusing to stand up against a team that already exists, whether you like it or not, and has made their horrible views very well known.

[–] lemmington_steele@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

and the most interesting part of the whole situation is that the other side most likely thinks the same

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except there's no need to hypothesize about what the "the other side" wants. They have been perfectly vocal about what they think are issues that need to be "solved":

  • Accurate history lessons
  • Transgender people
  • Women's ability to have deadly ectopic pregnancies removed
  • "Urban" people
  • The right to protest against the flag
  • Gay people

If you have enough knowledge of history to know what a "final solution" looks like, you are justified in seeing "the other side" as the main problem.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not really. Right wingers seem to like centrists.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

But since these are mutually exclusive propositions, only one side can actually be correct. Do you really think it's more likely to be the science-denying conspiracy-minded side? The side that elected a transparent con man and buffoon, and appears to want to elect him again?

[–] jellyfish@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I've literally never seen a republican candidate be the less shitty option