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[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because they're different crimes with different motives committed by different people under different circumstances.

Literally the only things in common between the two are firearms, humans being involved, and them both taking place on the planet Earth.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What makes those people different?

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, serves me right for feeding the troll.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No really, what makes them different, what's the obvious difference between the kind of person you picture robbing a store and the kind you picture committing a mass shooting?

Be bold, tell everyone the difference. Explain to us this essential difference that makes it so important that we segregate mass shootings from all other forms of gun violence as somehow a special sort of case?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are you on about? The motivations and end goals of an armed robbery and mass shooting are obviously and clearly different.

To help you:

A robbery tries to acquire things, and the gun is a threat they generally hope to not use (but might be pretty comfortable using).

A mass shooting is a terroristic event with the core goal of killing as many as possible.

A thief isn't necessarily interested in killing. A mass shooter is.

Simple stuff.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you pull a gun out you are not threatening, you have declared your intent to kill whatever it's pointing at.

It is not a defense tool, it is a "all other options are expired and now someone has to die" tool.

There is no motive for pointing your gun at someone except to shoot them.

No matter how much your dumbass might think you're just trynna scare them a bit.

It is the same. It is gun violence. It is terrorism without a cause.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm aware of the basics of gun safety, and aware that having a gun elevates the charges on a crime like a robbery. Pointing a gun at anything does indeed make clear your willingness to kill.

But you dodged the point of my reply, the motive or intent of the crime.

A robbery is not terrorism, or terroristic in motive. A robbery has a cause and a goal outside of killing. I'm not saying an armed robbery isn't an inherently violent act, and I never said that shit about "trynna scare them". Not sure where you gathered that.

You've devolved to name calling, inserting thoughts for others, and dodging the point of what you're replying to. Seems you're about spent

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

My point is that involving the gun makes it terrorism by the same principle of escalation.

It's not a robery, it's a near death experience where money might change hands.

Gun violence is gun violence. It is all attempted murder and terrorism. Fact that some people want money out of it is irrelevant, it is still terrorism.