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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago

It's pretty amazing that this so-called genius spent $44B on a company without apparently knowing anything about how the market it operates in (advertising) actually works.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@blakestacey @techtakes

“"I do shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but at least you know it is genuine, not from the PR department,””

He is the PR department.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I assume some PR departments of potential advertisers saw that and went 'lower the twitter spend more!', I'm imaging the Futurama joke where Fry talks to investors while stock price tally is running live behind him.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Twitter's main issue is that it's not really very big. It wasn't big even pre-Musk. If you have the choice between advertising on a really big social network (Meta (=FB, IG, Whatsapp...)) with a functioning trust & safety team and ad brokers who take you seriously and don't accuse you of being woke, and one which has way smaller reach, no T&S to speak of, and whose owner can use his outsized influence to call your CEO a pedo whenever the ketamine kicks in, the choice is clear.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

42 upvotes? In 2 hours? There is some serious weirdness going on here.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I got boosted by Charlie Stross...

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah right, I didn't see that as im directly on awful that explains

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I only saw it because I follow him on Masto.

Fedi is weird.

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

now at 79 upvotes on awful.systems, but only eleven upvotes are visible from lemm.ee.

Fedi is weird!

[–] WhyNotZoidberg@topspicy.social 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

@gerikson @Soyweiser It is funny, because by 99% of media sites Twitter was always one of the Three Big Ones: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Those were the social networks that were linked TO, and also the social networks media followed. MAYBE Linked In, if it was a "business" publication.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Twitter had outsized impact because it's where the journalists hung out, and structurally it was much more everyone in the same place than FB/IG

[–] WhyNotZoidberg@topspicy.social 6 points 4 months ago

@dgerard Plus you get to write articles about "Twitter Storms" about your articles.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago

I realized Twitter was for weirdo wonks when the local "Idol" reality show just had IG links for the contestants (Sweden). There might be markets where Twitter is locally bigger, but in Sweden it was always a niche thing.