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[–] WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 201 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Can we finally agree capitalism doesn’t give a fuck about anything but profits and therefore CANNOT self regulate?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Jon Stewart had an excellent monologue about the myth of corporate morality yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWVbZ0WQ3s8

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

I love how they gave Jon Stewart his show back and he's been using it to burn every single thing he can, including them.

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, he's back on the Daily Show?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Yes, but only Mondays. He's been hitting it out of the park though.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism does not return the shopping cart.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

😁

I just kinda put together recent adages that make sense together. Sometimes I feel like I think the way most people expect AI does.

I'm the guy who came up with the phrase "if buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing."

I might have a thing for putting 2 and 2 together to get 5.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Simplicity is powerful. I've mumbled a few things that turned out to be far more meaningful than I intended.

Not you, though. A Lazer of human consciousness, that's you!

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's not like people would just lie on the internet, is it?

(Mango has an unpleasant history)

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Heard, but my experience was positive.

Appreciate you looking out.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

😁

I'm pretty super flattered right now!

I mostly expect people to just not believe me when I claim I coined a viral phrase. I actually keep links to the source and stuff. Credit or none, I'm happy about it every time I see someone say it! I imagine it's how people feel who make open source software and this mentality is what defeats the capitalist notion that nobody would contribute for free.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dad once told me that money can't buy happiness, but poverty can buy misery. Whatever that's worth.

Good job, yo. And thanks. We need to share our fresh, creative ideas.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If we weren't so fixed on concentrating wealth and hoarding tools and IP, we could pretty well eliminate poverty. More can be made when everyone can access tools to be productive. There's just always the issue of how people won't CARE to nicely maintain things they aren't claiming ownership of. High economy of scale tools like flexographic presses need to be carefully maintained and it's best done with personal interest at stake it seems.

[–] lanolinoil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

isn't that the point? The corruption has tricked us to believing they can regulate themselves or are even not amoral about social issues. Companies make profit -- that is their singular goal. The laws and regulations control their behavior, not 'good will' or whatever we pretend motivates individuals

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It's the definition of capitalism

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's money. Every other form of economy has also exploited people for gain.

[–] WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Money existed before capitalism. Capitalism started in the 1700s. Money far predates capitalism. Plus, my comment is that capitalism must be regulated by outside regulators like governments. Conservatives have pushed deregulation forever and it’s made things worse. Capitalism worked far better in the heavy regulation days after WW2.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Money existed before capitalism. Capitalism started in the 1700s. Money far predates capitalism.

Yes, thank you explaining what I said. Mucho appreciato

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So we're just supposed to stop coming up with better ideas?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

If that's what you want to do, go for it. I didn't say anything like that.
I'm just pointing out it's not capitalism.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

~~In this case, I can believe that Chiquita didn't set out to finance the AUC, but was unfortunate in that their banana plantations fell into AUC-controlled territory, and therefore were extorted for protection money.~~

~~It's like if I owned an Italian restaurant, the mafia comes in and extorts me for protection money, then the feds come and arrest me for financing the mafia. What was I supposed to do?~~

edit: I didn't know about Chiquita. Thanks for the replies and info!

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

No, it's like if you owned a massive chain of Italian restaurants that notoriously exploited people, and you were actively paying the mafia to intimidate your workers and to bust unions.

The judge saw through Chiquita's ridiculous fabrication, I'm disappointed to see you parroting it here.

[–] WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Chiquita / United Fruit have long been involved in oppressing and destabilizing south America for profit.

[–] goldenbug@fedia.io 10 points 5 months ago

There is enough proof in the trials to show they were not unhappily contributing to paramilitary groups.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Chiquita has been bad for a long, long time. Even among the banana companies, they're famously evil.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's a false analogy. Chiquita were paying the paramilitary to do its bidding.

Here is a more in-depth article.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

~~Enjoy your burned out restaurant...~~

edit: I retract my comment due to prior ignorance about Chiquita's corporate behavior.