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[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are no hard requirements for being president beyond those listed in the Constitution:

  1. Be a natural born US citizen
  2. Be at least 35 years old
  3. Have resided in the US for 14 or more years.

That's it. The framers of the Constitution presumably felt being a convicted felon would be enough for an electorate (or the electoral college, at least) to simply not vote for that person.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

also this prevents a rogue prosecutor and judge from convicting a presidential candidate and blocking them from running. this way it is up to the people, whether the conviction is legitimate or not.

to be clear i am not saying trump’s conviction is illegitimate, just speaking generally. i could definitely see a world where trump pushes for this with a Democrat candidate (remember all the “lock her up” stuff?). i hope the legal system is robust enough to appeal a rogue situation but at some point it may not be.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I would like to see more requirements:

  1. Upper age restriction
  2. Does not lie about well known facts from scientist, like Covid-19.
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Upper age restriction

instead of this I would like to see independent physical and mental acuity tests performed and released publicly. no need to bring age into it if they are fit. and if they aren't fit they shouldn't be able to run even if they're young.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 1 points 5 months ago

Sure but I also want that the person to be able to last the whole 4 years period without running into any of those health issues with time. Might be hard to get the health measurements right and get people to accept it. Easier for people to just understand the person did not meet the age criteria.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Upper age restriction

And what happens when medical science increases life expectancy? U would have to amend the constitution to pass this. Think of how nightmarish it is to do this. Now think of amending this AGAIN when life expectancy increases every year.

Does not lie about well known facts from scientist, like Covid-19.

Who decides what "well known facts" are? A particular non-political committee? The supreme court was supposed to be this committee. It clearly became political quickly...

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And what happens when medical science increases life expectancy?

Make the upper age limit be average life expectancy minus X years. This has the added bonus of motivating politicians to actually try to increase average life expectancy.

Who decides what "well known facts" are?

The scientific community, and certainly not the Supreme Court. Not sure how you came to that conclusion.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The scientific community, and certainly not the Supreme Court.

Because there are different "scientific communities" - some of them rogue and stupid. I'm not the poster you were responding to, but I would assume that the arbiter of your hypothetical of which scientific communities would be valid would go to the Supreme Court.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No. The scientific community polices* itself with peer review. The rogue and stupid communities are peer reviewed out of existence. You can submit all the falsified "research" you want, but if your published results can't be replicated, you will be labeled a quack and your "findings" will go ignored by the rest of the scientific community.

No government-affiliated judicial body is involved in verifying science, because judges are experts in law, not science.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you know how long it takes to replicate another's studies? Sometimes that never happens.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that the United States Supreme Court weighs in on scientific studies that haven't been replicated yet?

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

No, I'm still commenting about Mio's suggestion upthread, that "not lying about science" is a terrible #5 criterion for president.