This shit has seriously gone on too long. People who continue to cling to the "10,000 dead crushed by tanks hosed i to the gutter" bs are cranks. It's jews control the banks, chemtrails, the earth is flat, the moon isn't real level of crank shit and unless you're feeling very indulgent and someone is asking in good faith it can be dismissed as equally serious to that kind of crank shit.

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[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

clueless

Sorry comrades, I'm absolutely clueless

Can someone please explain this event to me? I know it's grossly exaggerated and there's some CIA elements to it like operation yellowbird but I can't seem to get over the rut of smuglord fucks enthusiastically using it to shut me down when we have a discussion.

[–] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To start https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php

There was also a Portuguese(?) ambassador who gave a first hand account that pretty much disproves the "accepted narrative" but I'm not looking up sources on my lunch break

[–] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There was also a Spanish news crew in the square all night. They show some footage of the corpses of some of the PLA soldiers that were tortured to death, and a couple civilian corpses as well, but you can clearly see when the order to disperse was given and the news crew follows the crowd out of the square as they sing The Internationale.

I'm also on lunch break, so same on finding a source

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Thanks to all the responses, I'm learning everyday!

cuddle

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

two good articles on it

The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie. | Mango Press
Another View of Tiananmen | Red Sails

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

I commented in another part of the thread, but here is a thorough collection of links (that another hexbear put together) about what really happened including direct refutations of the US narrative: https://tiananmensquare.carrd.co/

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Actual footage from Tiananmen square as covered by the CPC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8dqOuHqcBQ
https://youtu.be/7bl_cyYHwNQ
Explanation of what happened https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/

Translation of official government explanation
https://www.mango-press.com/report-on-stopping-unrest-and-quelling-counter-revolutionary-riots/

Tankman full vid
https://youtu.be/GRb4VY2dU4c

Pretty good explanation https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1797650356727665115.html

Basically compare everything above with western propaganda and at the least you'll figure out western claims are bullshit.