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Please let it not be horrible, please let it not be horrible, please let it not be horrible....
With the trucker convoy sticker and the anti-trans save our children sticker, I'd say the ods are is horrible.
Ahhhh nuts... I didn't notice the stickers...
crazy that "#saveourchildren" is somehow anti-trans to these people
Being trans, gay, understanding of the world, or empathetic is what they're trying to "save the children" from, in that order of priorities.
Save the children from what?
I think it's to save them from sexual orientation education in schools? Some people think teaching our kids about gender fluidity and acceptance will somehow make them gay.
Yeah that's my point. It seems like the person is saying that it's crazy to believe that the #savethechildren bumper sticker is anti-trans. It's a really common right-wing 'trick'. You make up a phrase implying gay or trans people are after kids and then go "it doesn't say anything about that on the sticker, I guess that says something about trans people if that's where your mind went" when called out on it.
cool ur jets buddy you have it backwards
Sorry, I've just seen nearly that exact wording from anti-trans people.
Genuine naive question, but why is it such an inherent problem being anti-trans if you're not hurting anyone with that belief? Isn't it even more "equal" to accept people's right to have opinions you don't like? I don't think trans people shouldn't exist, but that shouldn't mean I have to like it.
That depends on what you mean by not hurting anyone with that belief. You can believe in whatever you want if it honestly doesn't hurt anyone else, but that's not usually how it goes. Just leaving a comment saying you dislike trans people is hurtful. Imagine scrolling through a comment section and seeing random comments where people say they hate that you exist.
How can you reconcile believing they have the right to exist with not liking that they exist? How is that functionally any different?
See the Paradox of Tolerance.
Yes that's exactly what I was referring to.
They should be tolerant of people that don't agree with them, and vice versa. But that shouldn't IMO mean we have to like it or be banned from a discussion just because of a difference of opinion... but I have been seeing a hair trigger on anyone even remotely disagreeing on this.
If you genuinely think trans people aren't being hurt by anyone who carries the anti-trans belief, then I recommend looking up some of the many news articles that details violence against trans people.
I've provided some for you, I genuinely hope that you take the time to read these.
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-expansive-community-in-2022
https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights-2024
The last one I posted tracks all of the current anti-LGBT legislation that's trying to pass into law. It's not just physical or emotional violence trans and LGBT people face, it's also people trying to enact laws that actively deny their rights as human beings. This isn't exclusive to America either, I got results from all over the world during my search.
You may not be violent in your beliefs, but it doesn't mean others aren't.
That is why I qualified the statement with "if you're not hurting anyone"... of course I am not blind to violence by others.
He's got it right, took me a second to parse but in a vacuum "save our children" doesn't have connotations with transgender individuals, but in our nonvacuum it lends plausible deniability as to what the true message is
Edit: and I replied to the wrong comment lol, we're all in agreement regardless
Specifically, it's to save their children (who are absolutely all straight and cis-gendered) from any exposure to others; except to ostracize, harm, and eliminate those others.
Here in Alberta, "Take Back Alberta" is a group of fear-mongering hate-based transphobic assholes who organized the "Save The Children" and other protests, and now are pulling the strings in our government. The leader is a contemptible home-schooled evangelical minister.
Any weird flags you don't recognize that don't involve rainbows are either sexual orientation flags (biaexuals have the best by far!) or some weird right wing shit.
Sheldon would like a word
youre ok? you seem mentally unstable.
That seems uncalled for, care to explain?
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