Taoiseach tells Israeli public: ‘IRA was never the people of Ireland and Hamas is not the people of Palestine’ – The Irish Times | Ghostarchive (ghostarchive.org)

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[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

The IRA were terrorists who killed their own people. They literally killed other Irish people, including other IRA sects. Look up the IRA leaders; a lot of them died in IRA-ordered bombings or assassinations. There was no unified IRA.

That's why the president of Ireland is denouncing them. That's what the article is about. The British being bad doesn't mean the IRA was good. They can both be bad and there are more than two parties in every situation.

[-] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

They can both be bad and there are more than two parties in every situation.

All that nuance is making my head hurt. Can't I just say "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? It sounds so much simpler and snappier.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

They can both be your enemy, friend.

Didn't you go to middle school?

[-] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

Sorry, irony didn't translate well there. It was supposed to be a parody of the binary mindset "I don't wanna think about nuance and individual differences, just enemies and allies".

Also, forgive my cynicism, but I'm not confident that every middle school teaches that level of critical thinking. I'm not actually sure we even touched on that in high school. I'm from Germany, but my school was rather centrist with respect to the Overton Window at the time. Much of history was painted rather black and white and avoided complicated details about morality.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I'm 99% sure that the user above you is being sarcastic.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

There was a civil war and divisions of the structure, but there was a structure and overall goal. I wouldn't say leaders like that because they may have led a branch and of course it being a paramilitary force they did not have HR nor qualms about taking lives so there was violent disagreements.

They most certainly were bad, but Ireland would not be what it is today without the IRA. ThebTaoiseach is not the president.

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