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[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 67 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Too be fair, we can kill them too. I bet people kill more bears than bears kill people.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 69 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In 2023 hunters reported harvesting 1,616 black bears in Oregon – 680 during the spring season and 936 in the fall

https://myodfw.com/articles/2024-spring-bear-hunting-forecast

Oregon has not documented any fatal bear attacks.

https://www.kptv.com/2023/05/24/bear-attacks-la-grande-man-after-he-shoots-it-twice/

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Looked it up fairly recently (cuz you know men got mad about bears or whatever) but don’t have source on me: Black bears cause about 1.2 human deaths per year across all of America.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's probably about right. Black bears don't get into fights they don't have to. I don't know how many dozens of black bears I've been around, but the only problem I've ever had involved a cub. Even that was a communication issue! I was trying to get the hell out of there, the cub was moving towards me, and the sow didn't like me moving in any direction lol

[–] wedeworps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

Made myself as big as possible, had my .357 out just in case, and not as slowly as I meant to continued to walk backwards the way I had come. Once she stopped coming towards me I turned around and went back to where I knew a clearing was. I plopped my ass in the middle of the clearing just in case, and waited a while. Once the shadows moved enough I headed back up the path and got to my truck.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Takes them five years to finally kill that second human

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

The only stories I hear about black bear related deaths typically involve some kind of "Messing With Sasquatch" moment on a couple of cubs.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda why I never got the whole would you rather thing. As a fairly big dude, I'd much prefer the bear over a man or a woman. The bear is more than likely just going to scamper off. Even decent people in bad situations are very dangerous creatures, and more than likely, I'm just going to have to take care of a complete stranger in the woods.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A black bear is more likely to scamper off. A brown bear is going to expect you to scamper off. As an avid backpacker, I'm not stoked about the plan to reintroduce brown bears to my state.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As an avid backpacker, I'm not stoked about the plan to reintroduce brown bears to my state.

I do a lot of hiking as well, and yes brown bears are definitely more of a pucker your b-hole scenario. But for the most part as long as you don't sneak up on one accidentally or accidentally get between the bear and the cubs, they're fairly harmless. Ya just gotta have something that makes some noise when you're hiking, I have buddies that just strap a cow bell on their packs.

It would still be pretty rare for one to outright attack a full grown person, they are generally aware that peeps be dangerous.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem with that is then you don't see all of the other wildlife that is fun to come across while in the wilderness. You won't have any more random deer or racoon sightings, since everything will run from your bell. Obviously it's better to be safer, but I'm generally pretty happy that we don't have fearless apex predators in our forests. We have a few apex predators with the black bear, grey wolf, and cougar, but those are all very wary of humans, and generally not a threat like the brown bear would be.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's fair, though it doesn't seem to bother the little critters like rabbits or racoons for some reason. But yeah, it'll def make the deer scamper off.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it's because their strategy for avoiding predators is "Stay in trees or hide in holes" rather than "Run away"

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

No question. They're regularly hunted.

[–] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but we're not cute, so it makes sense

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Says you. Actually other animals think we naked apes are totally cute.

[–] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I found Snow White

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

But people LOOK like they can kill. They are no fuzzy and cuddly…

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tigers are fuzzy and cuddly, and they look like they can kill, with self-sharpening claws and big canine teeth.

We look like funny apes, and what makes us dangerous are all strange magics like sticks that spit rocks, mists of death and our capacity to summon and play with fire. Then we build giant nests of concrete and lights and clockwork machines.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Calm down there Mowgli

yeah exactly, i look like i rape people as a hobby.

But i'm probably one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I just look homeless.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Idk, we're pretty cuddly

[–] Senseless@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago

You obviously haven't seen me.