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The Google AI isn’t hallucinating about glue in pizza, it’s just over indexing an 11 year old Reddit post by a dude named fucksmith. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 5 months ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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I see Google's deal with Reddit is going just great...

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[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

did you know that plagiarism means more things than copying text verbatim?

[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago

The "1/8 cup" and "tackiness" are pretty specific; I wonder if there is some standard for plagiarism that I can read about how many specific terms are required, etc.

Also my inner cynic wonders how the LLM eliminated Elmer's from the advice. Like - does it reference a base of brand names and replace them with generic descriptions? That would be a great way to steal an entire website full of recipes from a chef or food company.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If your issue with the result is plagiarism, what would have been a non-plagiarizing way to reproduce the information? Should the system not have reproduced the information at all? If it shouldn't reproduce things it learned, what is the system supposed to do?

Or is the issue that it reproduced an idea that it probably only read once? I'm genuinely not sure, and the original comment doesn't have much to go on.

[–] aio@awful.systems 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The normal way to reproduce information which can only be found in a specific source would be to cite that source when quoting or paraphrasing it.

[+] FooBarrington@lemmy.world -8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But the system isn't designed for that, why would you expect it to do so? Did somebody tell the OP that these systems work by citing a source, and the issue is that it doesn't do that?

[–] 200fifty@awful.systems 23 points 5 months ago

But the system isn’t designed for that, why would you expect it to do so?

It, uh... sounds like the flaw is in the design of the system, then? If the system is designed in such a way that it can't help but do unethical things, then maybe the system is not good to have.

[–] aio@awful.systems 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

"[massive deficiency] isn't a flaw of the program because it's designed to have that deficiency"

it is a problem that it plagiarizes, how does saying "it's designed to plagiarize" help????

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 17 points 5 months ago

"the murdermachine can't help but murdering. alas, what can we do. guess we just have to resign ourselves to being murdered" says murdermachine sponsor/advertiser/creator/...