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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I'll get downvoted for this, but: what exactly is your point? The AI didn't reproduce the text verbatim, it reproduced the idea. Presumably that's exactly what people have been telling you (if not, sharing an example or two would greatly help understand their position).

If those "reply guys" argued something else, feel free to disregard. But it looks to me like you're arguing against a straw man right now.

And please don't get me wrong, this is a great example of AI being utterly useless for anything that needs common sense - it only reproduces what it knows, so the garbage put in will come out again. I'm only focusing on the point you're trying to make.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

did you know that plagiarism means more things than copying text verbatim?

[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago

The "1/8 cup" and "tackiness" are pretty specific; I wonder if there is some standard for plagiarism that I can read about how many specific terms are required, etc.

Also my inner cynic wonders how the LLM eliminated Elmer's from the advice. Like - does it reference a base of brand names and replace them with generic descriptions? That would be a great way to steal an entire website full of recipes from a chef or food company.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If your issue with the result is plagiarism, what would have been a non-plagiarizing way to reproduce the information? Should the system not have reproduced the information at all? If it shouldn't reproduce things it learned, what is the system supposed to do?

Or is the issue that it reproduced an idea that it probably only read once? I'm genuinely not sure, and the original comment doesn't have much to go on.

[–] aio@awful.systems 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The normal way to reproduce information which can only be found in a specific source would be to cite that source when quoting or paraphrasing it.

[–] trollbearpig@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Come on man. This is exactly what we have been saying all the time. These "AIs" are not creating novel text or ideas. They are just regurgitating back the text they get in similar contexts. It's just they don't repeat things vebatim because they use statistics to predict the next word. And guess what, that's plagiarism by any real world standard you pick, no matter what tech scammers keep saying. The fact that laws haven't catched up doesn't change the reality of mass plagiarism we are seeing ...

And people like you keep insisting that "AIs" are stealing ideas, not verbatim copies of the words like that makes it ok. Except LLMs have no concept of ideas, and you people keep repeating that even when shown evidence, like this post, that they don't think. And even if they did, repeat with me, this is still plagiarism even if this was done by a human. Stop excusing the big tech companies man

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

~~pretty~~ moderately sure you won't just get downvoted for this