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[–] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They keep coming back with these headlines, but they all look the same to me, "Trump did thing that we all already knew he did!". Fucking get on it then and charge him

[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah I get that they're complicated charges and justice takes time. But if there aren't actual consequences before he has another chance to run we're basically telling future fascists that coup attempts are a pretty good idea because even if you fail you can try again in 4 years and if you succeed the second time you're all good.

[–] Huxleywaswrite@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they really that complicated though? He did most of it on television where we could all watch it, and has bragged about it repeatedly, again in public. If someone gets a DUI, while livestreaming their drive and posts all over social media about how they were "fine to drive that night," and "only had a few drinks", that wouldn't be complicated. It would be an admission of guilt that sealed their fate.

[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but there's a shit load of precedent for every possible DUI case, not a lot for attempted coups by a president. Plus presidential immunity and 1st amendment rights complicate everything.

Even so I think you're right that they're not that complicated as far as why it's taking this long. The real complication is that his entire political party was complicit in the attempt and are continuing to run any interference they can to help Trump avoid or delay consequences.

This is exactly what happened with Hitler and Napoleon. They were tried and convicted of major crimes, and given a slap on the wrist. They both took the time to raise more support, and came back even stronger.

[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah when a normal person commits a crime they don't get a couple weeks warning about their raid, arrest and indictment

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I will believe it when I see his flabby orange ass in prison

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't think we'd make it this far but I'm bot holding my breath on him being found guilty. Especially in Florida and Georgia.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Florida Federal Judge is going to spike the case, yeah. Really sucks.

But the Georgia trial is in Atlanta specifically, and the presiding judge there seems fairly responsible.

Unfortunately the Georgia state house just gave themselves permission to unseat locally elected prosecutors, which will come online in, I think, September?

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's more the juries I'm worried about. All it takes is one person to refuse to change their mind.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's kinda not the case though. Lots of people avoid justice. Like Trump.