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[–] force@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Whether a term is characteristic of a certain dialect or region isn't generally considered all that much when it comes to order on Wiktionary, unless it's an "obscure" dialect. I contribute a lot to Wiktionary (mainly for languages other than Modern English though) and there are few rules on the specific the order of definitions, it's mostly just common definitions above uncommon definitions (but this isn't even a hard rule).

Editing it to change the order for your reason specifically might be considered vandalism, as it's typical and allowed for entries to be like this and it's common for little disputes like that to cause editing wars (although that's admittedly far more common on Wikipedia, since many Wiktionary contributors are actually linguists and are less controversial).

That being said, someone actually did intentionally move the "gang member" definition above the other one, so there's clearly some sort of difference in opinion.

If you want it changed, the course of action you should take is starting a discussion about it. It's a good way to get a community consensus.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So let’s be clear here. You’re implying very heavily. Are you actually claiming that this person did this nefarious thing? What are you saying?

[–] force@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No, not at all. You can easily view the edit history of all Wiktionary pages – 2 years ago, someone put the definitions in the order they are now for a specific reason. This person thinks it should be the other way around, so if they want to change it it'd be best to make a discussion about it. That's the best way to get a community consensus on it. Wiktionary is a collaborative effort, people have different opinions on the specifics of a page, that's why discussions exist and are the go-to for settling differences in views.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your entire comment reads like a subtle lecture to set_secret about the pitfalls of editing Wiktionary to support his argument in this thread. I think you did that on purpose, because you figured people would interpret it as what it seems to imply.

[–] force@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What are you talking about, I didn't imply anything I outright said what I meant