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Firstly: I'm reasonably sure these women are just kvetching. I often say 'I'd rather drink piss' to express that I don't like something. Obviously I'm not actually going to drink piss.

Secondly...I do agree it's a bit much to compare men to a deadly 1200 pound predator. I would be a bit fed up of hearing that too if I were a guy.

Thirdly...that said...I understand WHY women say that even if it's a bit ridiculous. I've had a male friend completely turn on a dime and send me rape threats while drunk. I pleaded and tried to reason with him for about 20 minutes before I completely snapped and threatened to do things to him with a hunting knife that I won't detail because there's no need to make people vomit. Only then did he back off and switch to making excuses and blaming his autism. It was terrifying because there was no reasoning with him. He LIKED that I was frightened and freaked out. It gave him a pleasurable power rush. The only reason he backed off was the threat of said hunting knife.

A bear isn't malicious. A bear just wants to eat. A bear can be redirected or avoided. You can do things such as wear a bell or carry mace or put up an electric fence around a tent. A man isn't necessarily malicious but IF he is...those precautions won't do jack poopsies because he consciously knows the woman doesn't want it and LIKES the act of stomping on boundaries.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hadn't heard of this until just now..

I'm a cis het white guy.

I think 99% of the time a random guy is safe, there's a lot of guys out there, maybe I have tinted glasses, I'll say 75% of the time a random guy is safe, maybe I'm sheltered in my California comfort, 50% of the time a random guy is safe.

I wouldn't think myself safe in more than 2% of encounters with a bear, no sarcasm. Take a walk in a park in Alaska, it doesn't matter how many people are around you're always questioning every noise.

And for that comparison I understand survivors concerns with random people, but bears are not a comparable thing in Bear country (much like I haven't been in vulnerable women's shoes) (maybe sun bears or small black bears.... Not the big ones...)

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think 99% of the time a random guy is safe, there's a lot of guys out there, maybe I have tinted glasses

Yes. YES YOU DO. 99% of men are not a threat TO YOU. But how could you know any different?

To women though? It's way way WAY higher. For me it's not even a question between bear or man. Men are the reason I am scared to walk by myself at night.

Like, just go by the numbers if you are skeptical

https://vpc.org/press/nearly-1800-women-murdered-by-men-in-one-year-new-violence-policy-center-study-finds/

https://animal-world.com/bear-attack-statistics/

You need to step out of your own perspective and really understand the world that women are forced to live in before answering this question. I can respect that you think you might be biased, but I can not stress enough how "biased" is an understatement.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Yes. YES YOU DO. 99% of men are not a threat TO YOU. But how could you know any different.

This is something that I am embarrassed but took me 30 years to... Notice? I don't want to say understand because I don't think I will truly be able too.

It took getting married and my ex wife being sexually assaulted TWICE. WTF is wrong with us.