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Statcounter reports that Windows 11 continues to lose its market share for the second month in a row. Windows 10, meanwhile, is gaining more users and is now back above the 70% mark.

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 97 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Windows 10 is pretty crappy but tolerable, everything I've seen about 11 suggests it's a utter shit show.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 37 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I really don't have any issues with it, but I debloated it as soon as I got it.

[–] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So you removed all of the windows 11 from the windows 11, sounds pretty tolerable.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not like Windows 10 doesn't have heaps and heaps of bloat and spyware. Windows 11 just continues the trend.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

It made the trend visible to non power users atleast. That’s for sure.

[–] Linssiili@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, the secret is to debloat it all the way to 7. Going under that is not advisable expect under doctors supervision.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 16 points 7 months ago

I heard it’s pretty good with the bloat stripped. Honestly, if I’m going to start modifying my system I decided I’d rather have an OS that supports it properly.

More power to you though!

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Do you have any guides or tips for others that might want to do the same?

'clean up your PC' type programs get sketchy, so reliable recommendations would be appreciated

[–] yol@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As far as a debloater goes I recommend this one. Not only is it fast, it also has options to reverse all the things you did previously.

https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Beware of those things, all the people you see complaining that the store doesn't work when they want to use gamepass were debloat users.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 3 points 7 months ago

This is what I use. . They have a good preset, and there's also the option to install 3rd party apps and do UI tweaks.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Same, but I run a "pro" version that I acquired from work like a decade ago.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’m from Eastern EU but work in Germany in English. As I grew up with my native language’s keyboard, I always set that up, but turn the display language to English.

Worked fine in 10, but with the new 11 work laptops most things are indeed English, some apps are in my native language, and some in German. And a few days ago, lock screen stock photos started appearing (instead of the company’s logo as before), with quotes in my native language. All because I want to use a specific keyboard.

Based on searching, this is a known problem, win 11 languages are a mess, and no way to fix without resetting settings and reinstalling some things, for which I would need to leave my computer with corpo IT.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

American software is terrible at handling multi lingual users, aka people outside the US. Web browsers and Google services suffer from similar problems, but the random quotes in the lock screen are certainly something new to me.

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I have windows 11, and with startallback and directory opus both of which I had on 10) it's indistinguishable from 10. No benefits, no drawbacks. Honestly should have saved the trouble and not installed.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Starting to think MSFT are no longer targeting users that care about that stuff. They’re going after the ignorant/complacent/corporate. I think they realized the rest of us were a lost cause as soon as Linux was remotely an option.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I switched from 10 to 11 about a year or two ago and haven’t really had much issue with it. It was mostly a seamless switch, much less trouble than any other Windows transition, apart from something with the taskbar I remember being stupid, but I found some third party software that fixed it. I’d love to hate on MS, but I’m just sort of mildly ok with it. Even Copilot being added in to the sidebar is whatever, I’ve found some random needs for it here and there. As long as it doesn’t go snooping through my computer and report my mountain of illicit mighty morphin power ranger hentai, I should be ok.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl -1 points 7 months ago

I honestly don't even distinguish 10 from 11. For me, both are not acceptable on my machine, both have to be fought during daily use. Most problems of 11 originated in 10 and were already too severe.