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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Democrats no long believe in primaries.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except for the fact, of course, that the Democrat primaries have never been more democratic. But let's not let the facts or history get in the way of the narrative!

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So you are admitting they were previously less democratic and could be more democratic?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if I would label it "admitting," but rather just being aware of history. Parties didn't start having votes until around WWII, and after all of the hand wringing after the 2008 and 2016 primaries, Democrats voted overwhelmingly to dilute their power even more.

Making 2020 the most democratic primary for Democrats ever.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did you mean 2024 or are you saying the recent primaries were less democratic (e.g. incumbent advantage).

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Didn't really include them because they aren't concluded yet, but the rules have not changed.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

All the way up till 2024 democrats were furiously protecting Biden. Shutting down any critism of him. Now it's election time and all the discussions they refused to have for the last 3 years are at the forefront. Shame they waste their energy defending the presidential elect rather than vetting the better candidates. Like thats never blown up in their faces.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, I mean it's a lot of effort rigging things so they don't look completely janky. Debbie Whatsername-Smith was done worn out at the end of 2016 making sure it was Her Turn.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Watching the media lose its mind in 2020 when Bernie won Nevada, and candidates abandoning their campaigns like rats fleeing a sinking ship when he won California, really makes me think it was more than just DWS in 2016 fucking with things.

Also, whatever you do, don't google "Shadow Inc Acronym Iowa Primary" or trust anything this news article says about the caucus process because its fine, everything is fine, democracy is actually very healthy and normal in this country, and anyone who says otherwise is a Russian bot.