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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 81 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Dearest Biden,

Please stop trying to get Trump elected.

Pleasant Regards, Everyone who gives a shit about abortion access.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Only reason Biden is free to support genocide is because his opponent is Trump. It is the current political climate responsible for Israel's blatant disregard to humanity.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is why Biden doesn't care about his campaign promises. He just has to use the name Trump a few times in his speech and call several minority groups "the fabric of society" while doing nothing to help them. The only people winning during the next election is the lobbyists and the "bOtH muh SiDeS" people (the ones who complain if you critique about their favorite party).

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Doing nothing to help them is still clearly better than doing everything possible to hurt them.

[–] nadram@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Remember, Trump moved the whole US embassy to Jerusalem just to give Palestinians the middle finger. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1I810Z/ You can be sure that a very high majority of US politicians will take the same pro-Israel stand. The reason is simply campaign funding and lobbying. Look at AIPAC

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

fucking seriously. he won't step aside, and he won't stop holding it over the abyss.

he wants to make it as painful as possible to vote for him, but I just... I know at this point I can't, abd I'm starting to see much less radical people than me make that call.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It terrifies me as a transgender immigrant because I know Trump literally is dying for the chance to genocide me and my friends, but Biden really isn't helping at all. This country is a failure.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

yep! spin the wheel of genocides!

this is why you don't vote for the "lesser evil" for twenty years. takes electoral politics from 'impotent' to 'suicidal'.

its... well its not cool that this is the only option, but there are other kinds.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's the thing.

Whenever somebody goes "we have to vote Biden just this once to stop Trump" I think back on the last 2 or 3 decades were the Democrat's appeal to vote have been little more than a variant of this and how it has brought things to such a point that now the only two viable candidates to POTUS are genocide lovers (Mango Moussolini vs Smooth Talker Moussolini).

It's like fighting a War by taking one hill after another whilst going in the wrong direction - sure, those who are the kind that can't see the forest because of the trees, are gonna be celebrating after they succeed in taking a hill in one of their attempts every 4 years, but meanwhile at a strategical level things keep getting worse and worse, because they've been conditioned to always assault the wrong hill.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

real politics are direct, not electoral. especially here.

that doesn't just mean violence. it means if you want infrastructure; steal AutoCAD or grab a shovel. maybe hit up some friends. worst case: if they kill you for it, and what you built was cool, they have to keep running it for a few decades or radicalize everybody who remembers you.

the fact that the powerful even wanted to do this shows nothing else will work.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 4 points 7 months ago

The trouble with every "vote" argument on the left is always about the POTUS. The Republicans had a mission for decades that not a single non-Republican would run unopposed across the entire damn country no matter how small the vote was. Is it a sheriff for some backwater town? Yup, better make sure a Republican is there. How about a superintendent?

From the ground they have worked absolutely hard to make sure they had control of as much of the government to control every vote.

To use your analogy of fighting a war. As you said they're celebrating taking a hill in an attempt in every four years. But that's because one group is only doing the charge every four years and wondering "Why are we losing?" when the other side is digging the trenches advancing every year. Yes, this is the Democrats fuckup because they certainly aren't investing in them like the Republicans but then among a supply of left wing friends I'm the one informing "Here's the important fucking local vote about abortion/taxes/who's running for x seat" and finding out often that I'm the only one who was faffed to vote.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can always migrate away from the US.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 months ago

Way easier said than done

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Because Trump would have handled this better?

Only reason we didn't end up with a war in Iran in 2020 is pure fucking luck.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, Trump is clearly fucking worse... but I don't want free Palestine folks to have a reason not to vote for Biden.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 1 points 7 months ago

I agree Biden is 100% fucking this up. I agree that I'm worried that the Democrats will somehow snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by losing to an opponent beaten once before because of how truly awful Trump is.

But I'm absolutely amazed at the free Palestine folks who are threatening that they're the vote between Biden, who's wagging a finger at Israel going "don't" and fuck all else... and the guy who calls Netanyahu by his first name, buddied up to Israel, moved the embassy to Jerusalem, wanted to ban Muslims from the US, and is cozied up to the evangelicals who want to support Israel starting a holy war just so they can have Revalations go off.

Like both parties are bad, but there's bad... and there's "lets throw styrofoam containers of gasoline on the fire, that'll surely put it out."

[–] capem@startrek.website -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't make any sense.

If Iran is allied with Russia, and Trump is Putin's puppet, then wouldn't Trump be good for Iran?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/10/iran-nuclear-bomb-iaea-fordow/

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Trump had an Iranian general assassinated with a drone strike on an airport in Iraq in January 2020, killing 10 people. The fallout from that almost escalated into a war.

Only reason everyone forgot it was because 2020 was a super shitty year.