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[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 69 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

One question. If they know those are minors and that they know that the pictures are nudes, why the hell don’t they just ban the accounts that try to send nudes to minors? Also who the hell thinks it is a good idea to send nudes to Meta?

[–] Quik@infosec.pub 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would suspect because there is probably space for errors in the detection system

And also probably money. Banning users tends to make them not want to keep using your platform.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also who the hell thinks it is a good idea to send nudes to Meta?

It was eye-opening when I realized I'm the only one in my circle who gives a shit about online privacy. You and me and most of the Fediverse are a rare minority. This is normal to people now. If you told people in the 90s about this they'd rightfully call it a dystopia. I remember my mother being super paranoid about me going online back then. Boiling frog situation here.

Which is kinda funny because lemmy is really bad for privacy since pretty much everything is open. If you want to see how people vote, just make your own instance and collect it all.

Lemmy is relatively anonymous, but not private. It's still way better than anything Meta does.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

why the hell don’t they just ban the accounts that try to send nudes to minors?

Because they are sent from minors to minors too? Teens are horny, they copy adults making nudes, sometimes just sharing porn. Recently there were problems with classmates using pornLLM to undress their peers. The abuse problem is harsher, but I feel it's the minority of nudes received by minors. Honestly, I'd have changed the EULA to forbid it on a public service like Insta, because unlike messengers there is everything to be deanonymized and explicitly targeted by an abuser, including stalking and threats IRL. For Insta, there could be a rule to ban uploading images to Direct of <18 y.o. users, only reposts, meaning they are publically availiable and may get reported by other users and brought down by existing policies without breaking E2EE.

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Because they are sent from minors to minors too?

This could be different depending on the country, but in Germany that would still be illegal. I don’t think a rule like you suggest would ever happen if not forced by law

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I haven't heard of that law be strictly enforced tho. For one reason - teens are stupid and don't know laws, even though they fall under them. But yeah, most civilized places have laws against production of minor porn that doesn't specify age, but can walk around the problem if it's produced by a consenting party, of themselves, and without a big age difference.

[–] Quik@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago

The "problem" here (if you think so) is that if law enforcement in Germany gets to know about a case like this, they cannot choose themselves not to act on it.