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As civilian casualties continue to mount in the wartorn Gaza Strip, reports of Israel's use of artificial intelligence (AI) in its targeting of Hamas militants are facing increasing scrutiny. A report by the Israeli outlets +972 Magazine and Local Call earlier this month said that Israeli forces had relied heavily on two AI tools so far in the conflict — "Lavender" and "Where's Daddy."

While "Lavender" identifies suspected Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) militants and their homes, "Where's Daddy" tracks these targets and informs Israeli forces when they return home, per the report, which cites six Israeli intelligence officers who had used AI systems for operations in Gaza, including "Where's Daddy?"

"We were not interested in killing [Hamas] operatives only when they were in a military building or engaged in a military activity," one of the officers told +972 and Local Call. "On the contrary, the IDF bombed them in homes without hesitation, as a first option. It's much easier to bomb a family's home. The system is built to look for them in these situations," they added.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It can be hard to find evidence beyond pictures that look pretty damning on those 'education camps' and first hand accounts of people who claim to have experienced things that we would usually refer to as part of a genocidal campaign. China is trying real hard to get to that point, It's maybe the nicest way to wipe out an ethnic group, but primary focus past few years seems to be on forced implanted contraception and sterilization.

It definitely seems to be working out.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22311356/china-uyghur-birthrate-sterilization-genocide

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Adrain Zenz, the man behind the Uyghur bullshit, is a Christian Fascist whom according to himself was ordained from the fucking god to spread this bullshit

Also, the last time this "evidence" was making rounds, it was debunked. Not only they had pictures of fucking actors who weren't Uyghur, their evidence contained AI generated images.

Give me ONE, fucking ONE, piece of hard evidence that can prove what Adrian Zenz and RFA say. Mainstream Media is literally parroting the words of actually insane people just because China Le Bad.

Also, on purely philosophical grounds, the country that's funding a Muslim genocide and conducts systematic racism against them, also known as the United States of America, and their lapdog Israel, are the last two countries on this earth that can say anything remotely advocating relating to Muslims rights.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can go look at the camps if you want, it's all available via satellite pictures:
https://xjdp.aspi.org.au/map/?marker=3405

Beyond that the best we got is probably all the Uyghurs talking about it.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Didn't someone go there and find out these are literally prison complexes? By that count, USA is commiting genocide against millions of people lol

[–] BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, there's a lot of videos out there and they are definitely built like a prison. Very few of the inside, not sure if that's good or bad.

As far as the US, considering the scale and purpose, not sure the two are that comparable, but also not really a contest, an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere. I don't disagree that both are a problem though, but definitely been a bit longer since anyone had a reason to accuse the US of mass sterilization. Did happen in US prisons too though, and a lot more recently than you might think, thankfully smaller scale.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Did you see the article's source? It's Adrian Zenz.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Weird dude, but I do find it interesting that we always seem to find some problem with any person anywhere who speaks critically of China.

You can check the camps on satellite though:
https://xjdp.aspi.org.au/map/?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

The point is that dude has no means to collect such statistics, he's not a research agency asking representative samples about their medical history, documenting his methodology and making the data available, and he's not even citing statistics supplied by hospitals.

He literally just pulled those charts out of his ass. Instead of "well yes, they're lying, but I'm sure the broader point is true", consider "would they have any need to fabricate things if the broader point is true?"

Surely it would be easy enough to go to Xinjiang and verify it, since there's no travel restrictions and they wouldn't have to worry about getting caught making shit up.