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[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 81 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is there a charge for "attempted negligent homicide" or something? You did something so catastrophically stupid that was all but guaranteed to kill someone except you got lucky, but you still should end up getting censured so you don't roll the dice on someone's life again

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 56 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Reminds me of an story I heard once. Guy working on a job locks and tags out a circuit so he can work on it. Guy goes up on a ladder to do the work.

Coworker comes along and sees circuit left locked; he decides he needs to activate the circuit. Coworker uses bolt cutters to remove the lock and flips on the circuit.

Guy on ladder gets literally knocked off the ladder, falls 10-20 feet onto grass. Guy is rushed to the ER.

Boss investigates, gives coworker two options: either he can quit immediately, or he can keep working and personally explain himself to guy in a month when he gets out of the hospital.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Where I live, for that kind of incident the employer would be obligated (as in, $50k worth of fines and likely criminal charges if you don't) to report it to an independent investigator to determine who was at fault; the person cut the lock would be liable for a fine, and the employer would have to prove that they adequately trained the employee before allowing them to work in a high risk area, or the health and safety officer and company directors could be found criminally liable

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

In my area, there's a decent chance the guy with the bolt cutters could be criminally liable, if he was adequately trained. That could easily be negligent homicide.

You do not cut locks. If your boss asks you to cut a lock, report them so they get immediately fired. We don't fuck around with LOTO.

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 11 points 7 months ago

Now I understand why you need 20+ supervision and management staff for 2 ppl doing actual work.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 25 points 7 months ago

I worked briefly at a store where the Store Director was clearly still traumatized about an employee death years prior. Didn't press for details, but it was preventable and they were hyper-vigilant about safety precautions.

The world would be better without Captain Bolt Cutter and their kind spreading misery with their weaponized stupidity.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I remember reading something similar, with someone responding that they were always two people for these tasks. One doing the job and one guarding the circuit, making sure this does not happen.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

This is why you need 2 people to reactivate the circuit, one with the boltcutters, the other to fight the guard.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Option three - lock tag and then send coworker up, leaving original guy behind at the circuit with the bolt cutters to do as he sees fit.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

No, this is a corporation, so unfortunately the best we can do is some tax cuts maybe a massive bailout.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Hey at first it said "only hit this button if you really hate Phil, it will kill him." but they thought better and changed it.

[–] Cerothen@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you perhaps relate that information in a format that doesn't involve me watching a video?

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

Here it’s w/o tracker at end:

https://youtu.be/dvnbDLs_M3A

Heh yeah that’s good