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[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And then in the next movie they cured death!

[–] eva_sieve@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In fairness, they did that on Voyager first.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In what way? I don't remember that.

[–] eva_sieve@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Neelix is killed while participating in a survey mission of a protomatter nebula. Using a technique devised by Seven of Nine, however, the Doctor is able to revive Neelix after being dead for nearly 19 hours.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Coil_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, now I remember.

I'm watching the first bit of that episode now, and in fairness, at least they attempt to sort of justify it by saying it's just that the Borg assimilated species with better medical technology and that their ability to revive drones is limited to only up to 73 hours after death.

I don't have a copy of the JJ movie conveniently to hand at the moment to check (I never bothered to obtain a copy because all the plot holes piss me off), but I don't recall them even bothering to do any hand-waving to limit the scope.

[–] eva_sieve@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Loath as I am to defend Into Darkness, this is arbitrary skepticism and Voyager is by far a worse offender.

It's not explicitly said but the circumstances are much tighter: I'm pretty sure McCoy stuffs Kirk's corpse into a cryo tube almost immediately after he dies and the gang also needs to capture, not kill a raging genetically enhanced warlord to have a shot at it. The two subsequent references to the Kelvin timeline after this offers no circumstance under which this technology could reasonably be used but wasn't. If they somehow did manage to repurpose Khan's magic panacea blood there's no indication it would be more than an immediate revival drug--like something we see used in Lower Decks as a joke.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Hmm, you're probably right. I guess I'm just less inclined to give JJ movies the benefit of the doubt because of everything else wrong with them.