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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean this is a clear case of antisemitism isn't it? I'm shocked I tell you

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I don't remember where I read it but some Zionists do not consider non/anti Zionist Jews to be real Jews. So yes, they would consider this antisemitic. If I find the source I'll add it here.

[–] DreamerofDays@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago

So long as we are anecdotal, that has not been my experience.

Judgments along observance lines, and people thinking those in some denominations are crazy or lesser, but I haven’t seen it drawn on those lines.

Generally the same kind of a thing you’ll find in any religion, or any fandom for that matter— those who are more observant or more dedicated may say the less observant/dedicated aren’t doing it right; the less observant/more casual may say the more observant/dedicated are crazy.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's possible that @ABCDE@lemmy.world replied to an earlier version of my comment where it said 'for many Israeli's' or something like that. I edited my comment before I saw their reply. Anyway, I edited my initial reply for clarity but I don't think it will help because my phrasing makes it sound like I'm the one who thinks the director's comments are antisemitic. I don't.

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The confusing bit is that "Zionist, non-zionist or anti-zionist" reads like a list lacking an Oxford comma. You have to realize that reading makes no grammatical or logical sense then go back and realize the intended syntax.

A more clear way to put it might be: "but some Zionists do not consider non/anti Zionist Jews to be real Jews. So yes, they would consider this antisemitic"

[–] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thank you. Hope you don't mind but I included your edit.

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

~~It’s very annoying that I can’t find the source anymore but~~ I read that despite making up 1% of the population, in Germany up to a third of all people accused of antisemitism in the past months were Jewish.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/11/denouncing-critics-of-israel-as-un-jews-or-antisemites-is-a-perversion-of-history

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I am so disappointed and embarrassed by the way the German government is handling the crisis. It is awful.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago

It's not surprising at all.