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the only people responsible for electing trump are those who vote for him. i'm not doing that, so it can't be my fault.
If there are 10 people including you and the majority chooses who gets to be president and the vote ends up as 5 for Biden (including you) and 5 for Trump. Then the vote gets recast and the only thing that changes is that you decided not to vote for Biden, it would be 5/4 for Trump and the person responsible for electing Trump would be everyone who voted for him and you. If you had voted against Trump instead of abstaining, he would not have become president.
That's a very basic concept and it's clear that it extrapolates to the actual election.
voting for a bad person is bad.
Voting for a bad person to prevent a horrible person from winning is good.
not according to kant.
Screw Kant then.
Woah there, hold your argumentum ad populum! No ethics model is unflawed and just because deontological ethics work often doesn't mean they don't have problems. Instead of looking at the actions you can take, let's look at the results that could be reached:
No 3rd party has ever achieved presidency. Votes for a 3rd party have instead commonly resulted in votes being drawn from one party benefiting the other. So realistically we could generalise to:
I hate dichotomies as much as you, these shouldn't be the options, I would seriously love to be proven wrong. Am I missing something?
this kind of paranoid bad-jacketing of users is fucking disgusting. accusing users of being part of a state-sponsored psyop should be bannable across every community and instance. come with receipts, or keep your badfaith bullshit to yourself.
It's a good thing you don't make the rules, then!
are you running a CIA cointelpro operation?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
You fail to see the point - intentionally, I assume.
Except you ignore their arguments to put out a thought terminating cliche and they keep addressing your points. The one who reads as bad faith here is you.
I did consider this, I even adressed how this is an issue as it fails to aids Trump in winning the election. I do think that Biden is problematic and that the genocide in Palestine is wrong, however voting a 3rd party aids trump resulting in no changes in Palestine and changes for the worse for the rest of the world.
it's not a videogame, and I am not voting for Biden.
if all you have is attacks on my identity, please block me, too
that's exactly what an ad hominem is
yes you did.
your explanation didnt prove me incorrect. but you did insult me at least three times already.
Insults aren't ad hominem dummy