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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 77 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Python: So you used spaces and tabs for indentation? NOW DIE!

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mixing spaces and tabs should be a warcrime.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

And in Python, it's merely a SyntaxCrime.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Find me anyone who claims they use tabs for indentation, and I bet I'll find at least one case where they're using both tabs and spaces.

The only safe way to avoid war crimes is to avoid tabs.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't IDEs just replace any tab with 4 spaces anyways? Pretty sure VSCode does

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

I    don't    use    an    ide,    but    I    wrote    a    script    that    replaces    any    space    I    type    with    four.

I    haven't    worked    out    all    the    use    cases    yet,    though.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

That's a setting in the editor.

[–] dotMonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use the tab key but I'm pretty sure vs code converts that to spaces

[–] gears@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on your settings, but yeah typically it does

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It worries me that a programmer wouldn't know for sure what's happening when they hit tab, and that it's a setting that can be changed.

[–] dotMonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I mean I was 99% sure it convert to spaces, I cannot say I was certain. The default settings are fine for what I do, I only ever had to change the spacing from 4 to 2 spaces once when dealing with someone else's files

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why would I use spaces if I use tabs? Also, it seemd like a huge waste of time hitting the space bar so many times...

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Why would I use spaces if I use tabs?

To comply with Python's best practices:

https://peps.python.org/pep-0008/

Also, if you work on the Linux Kernel, you'll see a mix of tabs and spaces:

https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/block/bfq-iosched.c#L390

Also, it seemd like a huge waste of time hitting the space bar so many times…

You use an editor that doesn't auto-indent?

[–] ramsay@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Good. Spaces and tabs for indentation should never be mixed in any language other than Whitespace.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Some people use tabs for indentation and spaces for alignment. It kind of gets the pros of tabs (user configurable indent-width) and the pros of spaces (alignment). That doesn't work in Python where you can't align stuff and the interpreter doesn't allow mixing tabs with spaces, but in other languages it is a possible style.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk -1 points 10 months ago

There are no pros to tabs. Configure tabs to a number of spaces.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Raw adjust with tabs, fine adjust with spaces.

Don't laugh, people are actually doing that.

[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 5 points 10 months ago

Mixing tabs and white spaces in 2024 is categorically a you problem lmao

[–] brettvitaz@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago