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[–] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know, it's the least they can do. It's like the parents abuse chain if we can educate the next generation to do better while we try the best we can do to fix.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I know, it's the least they can do.

You bought into corporate propaganda that individuals are responsible for climate change and not the top 100 polluting corporations.

Hook line and sinker.

There is absolutely fucking nothing that recycling does to stop this. Most of the developed worlds “recycling” gets shipped to third world nations who dump it in landfill or the ocean.

[–] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just because corporate make a bigger pollution doesn't mean that you shouldn't do the right thing. If you don't want to recycle because they just dump it elsewhere it is okay you can reduce your usage or reuse it.

[–] STOMPYI@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I like seeing the multi color rainbow from all the replies... I'll pitch in... we should all have UNLIMITED RESPONSIBILITY. OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND SHOULD BE LIMITLESS. As soon as we say something isn't our responsibility our ability to respond dissappears. So as you say still recycle but every thing you do to help let it galvanize you to purchase less overall. This world is fucked by consumption and chasing desires and if we buy less they lose. That's just my perspective I know it won't sit with all. Humans are spiritual beings sent here to spiritualy grow not materlisiticaly buy.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have been designing recycling systems for most of the past decade, among other projects, and you are at most partially correct.

A. Define recycling because you if you are talking about material recovery, like scrap wood being turned to saw dust or solvent recovery from a cleaning process, we do this all the time. Why the heck wouldn't you pull a chemical out of your waste stream that you want to use again?

B. Sure a lot of ewaste goes overseas your cans and bottles aren't. And even then they do process it. I know. I have been to the facilities that do it in South East Asia.

C. Household recycling can be a lot more effective if the government was not working with the worst fucking assholes in the world. I quite literally have two versions of multiple designs. 1 the government gets and the good one for private sector. The government folder is labeled "for idiots".

Whenever I hear people ranting against recycling I just mentally picturing a heavy smoker drinking pop and whining about the salad they ate six months ago hasn't kicked in yet.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I’m not ranting against recycling, I am pointing out that the whole “personal responsibility” for the environment, carbon footprint and the push to recycling as a panacea was a propaganda campaign by oil companies.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fossil-fuel-companies-spend-millions-to-promote-individual-responsibility-2021-3?op=1

While it was a few years ago this is a great example of glass not getting recycled: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-07/recycling-companies-forced-to-stockpile-glass-industry-crisis/8778088