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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good riddance. Regardless of whether the allegation of being dangerous are true or not, anything that takes aspartame out of the food industry is good.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If aspertame replaces sugar or removing aspertame causes more sugar consumption, hell no. You might not care for the flavor, but sugar is much worse for people than aspertame. There are better sweeteners though. Stevia is pretty good, in my opinion, and you can grow and extract your own with fairly little effort.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How exactly are you comparing sugar consumption to aspartame consumption?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sugar is very unhealthy and aspertame is maybe carcinogenic, but almost certainly only in quantities much higher than likely any human (potentially with a few very unhealthy individuals) is consuming. I don't need to compare the quantities consumed really. Less sugar is better always.

From the article: "An adult weighing 70 kilograms or 154 pounds would have to drink more than nine to 14 cans of aspartame-containing soda such as Diet Coke daily to exceed the limit and potentially face health risks"

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked how are you comparing them, not what the maximum dose is.

If you're so opposed to sugar or sugary drinks, do you not see how it's a problem to keep promoting these confusing liquid dessert forms which are literally owned by the same corporations that make the sugar drink?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you mean by how am I comparing them. Do you mean how do I compare 1g of sugar to other sweeteners as a measure of harm, or do you mean it as a rhetorical "they aren't comparable" comment? If the former, I don't really need to. Artificial sweeteners do not have measurable harm on normal human consumption scales, where sugar does. If the later, they are comparable. Sugar has caused massive issues in out society and artificial sweeteners are a way to alleviate some of that harm without people dramatically changing.

I don't promote sweet foods or drinks. I hardly drink or consume them. I rarely eat deserts, and when I do they're on the much less sweet side. I also usually drink coffee and tea black, or with a tiny splash of milk (alternative). If I had my way, we wouldn't have sweet foods/drinks everywhere. The current state is that we do though, and the best way to help things isn't to convince people to not like sweet things, but to convince them they can consume sweet things but they should avoid sugar where possible.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

but to convince them they can consume sweet things but they should avoid sugar where possible.

and that's the problem