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How to discuss trans issues to uneducated people? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago by Zirconium@sh.itjust.works to c/controversial@sh.itjust.works

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Hi, I have a transmasc boyfriend and am part of the LGBTQ+ alliance. However I started my first year of college and encountered uneducated men who just did not believe that trans people had their rights under attack. One of my friends even told my trans woman friend that she had more rights than him. How or what can you do to help others become educated without "debating trans existence" or starting an argument? Thank you.

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[–] SouthernCanadian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To say something controversial: maybe listen to what they have to say and try to understand why they think what they think, instead of assuming that you're automatically right and just need to educate them.

[–] Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think its pretty weird if you say trans people are treated equally, let alone more rights. It's still a societal problem we have in a lot of places and in my experience all I meet that are trans have some sucky times because of other people...

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair there is an entire month dedicated to LGBT pride.

[–] thatgirlwasfire@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There wouldn’t need to be a month dedicated to pride if lgbt people weren’t discriminated against.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just starting what the average person sees.

[–] Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So it makes it equal because they get a "month". I get it. You probably don't know a lot of these people and i didnt use to either. But when speaking about their life experience, they have been shunned from most friend groups and yeah they all chill with like minded people cause you know there aren't any bigots there.

I get that if you were like me and you really arent a bigot, that it is hard to see the (daily) struggles and think well I dont see any discrimination. But like most people can amend to is that most have more struggles because they are of the lgbtq+ group.

[–] Djeece@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Most of us can't really know about it because we don't see it everyday.

All of my LGBTQ friends have a story or another of a scary situation, and I live in a very LGBTQ friendly place.

Saying there's no discrimination against them is either misinformed, or burying your head in the sand.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

The post was asking about normies and I was relating what should be expected and the thought process there in.

[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats the issue though. They dont think, Ive tried asking them about stuff and they'll parrot things like "puberty blockers kill people." then I show them that study was wrong and they just dont believe me lol.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So your only example is a strawman nobody believes?

[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People actually use "puberty blockers are harmful" as an actual argument so I dont think its that hard to believe.

Heritage Foundation (Youtube)

The Federalist

Western Journal

Texas banning puberty blockers and hormone treatment

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Why are you linking the Federalist?

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol you've already pivoted your argument. Seems you're the one incapable of good faith interaction